Author Topic: If an Orthodox Christian wanted to convert to Catholicism? (Read 2043 times)

Jehanne · « **on:** September 28, 2009, 10:51:15 AM »

I have read that the post-Vatican II church will not allow an Orthodox Christian to convert to Catholicism. Is this true? If so, what would such an indvidual do? If that person came into the Church via the SSPX or some other traditional Catholic group, then what? Would a Norvus Ordo priest offer the Sacraments to such an individual or would he/she be stuck with the SSPX?

Caraffa · « **Reply #1 on:** September 28, 2009, 03:21:01 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

I have read that the post-Vatican II church will not allow an Orthodox Christian to convert to Catholicism. Is this true? If so, what would such an indvidual do? If that person came into the Church via the SSPX or some other traditional Catholic group, then what? Would a Norvus Ordo priest offer the Sacraments to such an individual or would he/she be stuck with the SSPX?

I could very well see an NO priest telling them that they don't need to convert. I also would not take someone coming from EO to the Novus Ordo; they'll want to remain Orthodox.

CM · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:15:38 PM »

Not to mention their orders are not doubtful.

Jehanne · « **Reply #3 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:11:16 PM »

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Not to mention their orders are not doubtful.

A somewhat surprising reply, coming from you.

CM · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:21:06 PM »

Why?

All I'm saying is that the 'Orthodox' have valid orders and the N.O. orders are of doubtful validity.

I would've thought you'd expect as much from me.

Jehanne · « **Reply #5 on:** September 28, 2009, 09:54:04 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Why?

All I'm saying is that the 'Orthodox' have valid orders and the N.O. orders are of doubtful validity.

I would've thought you'd expect as much from me.

I kind of expected a more definitive response that the Orthodox ought to convert to Catholicism, Extra Ecclesia Nulla Sulla.

CM · « **Reply #6 on:** September 29, 2009, 02:27:42 AM »

Quote from: Caraffa

I also would not take someone coming from EO to the Novus Ordo; they'll want to remain Orthodox.

Same thing. (happy Don?)

Jehanne · « **Reply #7 on:** September 29, 2009, 09:55:42 AM »

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Quote from: Caraffa
I also would not take someone coming from EO to the Novus Ordo; they'll want to remain Orthodox.

Same thing. (happy Don?)

You would not encourage an EO to come into the SSPX, SSPV, etc.?

CM · « **Reply #8 on:** September 29, 2009, 01:19:07 PM »

Nope.

Jehanne · « **Reply #9 on:** September 29, 2009, 01:29:37 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Nope.

Why? Seems like a denial of Unam Sanctam:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html

CM · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2009, 01:46:15 PM »

Subjection to the Roman Pontiff and subjection to an antipope are two different things.

Jehanne · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2009, 02:01:04 PM »

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Subjection to the Roman Pontiff and subjection to an antipope are two different things.

Okay, so you are saying that it is not necessary for an EO to convert to Catholicism to attain eternal life? If so, why should Protestants convert? Or, anyone else, for that matter?

Belloc · « **Reply #12 on:** September 29, 2009, 02:06:46 PM »

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Quote from: Catholic Martyr
Subjection to the Roman Pontiff and subjection to an antipope are two different things.

Okay, so you are saying that it is not necessary for an EO to convert to Catholicism to attain eternal life? If so, why should Protestants convert? Or, anyone else, for that matter?

if they listened to CM, they would not convert at all but would shrug and say "they are as divided as we are" and would not see unity at all.......

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** September 29, 2009, 02:10:02 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

I have read that the post-Vatican II church will not allow an Orthodox Christian to convert to Catholicism. Is this true? If so, what would such an indvidual do? If that person came into the Church via the SSPX or some other traditional Catholic group, then what? Would a Norvus Ordo priest offer the Sacraments to such an individual or would he/she be stuck with the SSPX?

Kaspar and waaay too many others ahve largely aid this, everyone is saved in their own sect, etc.......even the wording of v2, changing the formula-the body of Christ is the Catholic Church, to "subsists", meaning seperate entities with one inside the other.....not one and the same......

being "stuck" with SSPX is not a bad thing at all..recently out-of-town and at a 8 AM Mass prior to boarding plane.......place was packed w/kids, young adults, older folks and long confesisonal line.......

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** September 29, 2009, 02:15:01 PM »

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Quote from: Jehanne
I have read that the post-Vatican II church will not allow an Orthodox Christian to convert to Catholicism. Is this true? If so, what would such an indvidual do? If that person came into the Church via the SSPX or some other traditional Catholic group, then what? Would a Norvus Ordo priest offer the Sacraments to such an individual or would he/she be stuck with the SSPX?

I could very well see an NO priest telling them that they don't need to convert. I also would not take someone coming from EO to the Novus Ordo; they'll want to remain Orthodox.

I would take them either to TLM community or more likely, an eastern Church......their liturgy is sound and most priets, though modernism I can tell you has made its inroads, still better than NO...(novus disorder or Nervous Ordo)