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I've been thinking.....
« on: July 11, 2007, 11:17:57 AM »
With the release of these two docuмents, the Mass and about the one church. Since so many "Trads" have taken this to mean that Pope Benedict has seen the light and is ready to correct past mistakes, when in truth, those statements do not correct anything but are in fact more traps for people to fall into. Is it possible that this was all done by those master minds in the Vatican to cause even further dissension amoungst Traditionalists, and to make those like myself who say these two docuмents were convaluted lies, be looked upon as even more extreme than most people thought I was two weeks ago. "They" will say that this shows the world that there is nothing Benedict can do to please us and that we are "schismatics", "extremists", etc.
Since the majority of the people are not willing to read or learn what the Sede position really is, then even more souls are going to be lost due to these two cunning docuмents.

Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

I've been thinking.....
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2007, 11:30:05 AM »
Dawn,

I can't comment on the intentions of the Vatican regarding these two docuмents, but it is evident that you are correct in regards to the dissension and even greater lack of unity amongst the traditionalists.

Additionally, yes.  We will be seen as extremists for not biting at these docuмents hook, line, and sinker.  You don't have to be a sedevacantist to be ridiculed as an extremist.

Pinoy Monk


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I've been thinking.....
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2007, 12:05:58 PM »
Dawn,

Apologies if this misses the mark, but put another way:

Has the proverbial line in the sand been drawn with even more clarity?

Yes, it has.  There are many who have bidden their time pleasantly enough on the wrong side of this line, without too much lack of comfort, etc.  Now, the contest is growing noticeably hotter, and it is not as easy to sit comfortably on the side of the enemy (and calling him 'papa' does not help as much as one might like to think).  Those who take the recent docuмents as good are already pretty firmly in the camp of our adversary.  Others, we pray, will come to see the line in the sand more clearly, moving to the correct side.  They have desired to be on the correct side all along, but the shenanigans of the adversary have been craftily rendering them indecisive and, therefore, immobile.  Call a spade a spade, and be free to unsheathe your sword.  Until you do, your 'papa' will continue to cut you to pieces.

Btw, would this go better in the 'crisis' folder?

I've been thinking.....
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2007, 12:33:04 PM »
Yes, and anyone who knows how can move it. And my eloquent friend. That is more to my point, the line is clear. And I for one shall not look back only towards the Queen of Heaven to keep me on the right path which is no longer being shown from Rome

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2007, 02:06:55 PM »
As I have said before, we are all in the dark here to a greater or lesser degree.  Jesus did not leave a step by step manual to follow during times like these, and those whom we have always trusted to decipher and explain things to us are the very ones clouding the issues and changing the road signs.  We are split and turned on one another purposely, lest any find the way and lead others.  Should we ever find a leader, we will go home to Mother Church.