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I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
« on: March 29, 2017, 01:29:43 PM »
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    • I am so inspired by people who were once "lost but now [are] found, blind but now I see"

    But the thing that really, really disturbs me is that there seem to be so few of those stories.


    As far as we know:

    • Hillary never repented
    • Eric Holder never repented
    • Lois Lerner.. ditto
    • Edward Snowden
    • Bill Clinton
    • Spitzer


    Ok.. the list goes on.. don't want to be here all day

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    Offline Meg

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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 02:09:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: countrychurch on March 29, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
    I am so inspired by people who were once "lost but now [are] found, blind but now I see"

    But the thing that really, really disturbs me is that there seem to be so few of those stories.


    As far as we know:

    • Hillary never repented
    • Eric Holder never repented
    • Lois Lerner.. ditto
    • Edward Snowden
    • Bill Clinton
    • Spitzer


    Ok.. the list goes on.. don't want to be here all day


    Quite likely there's no one praying for the conversion of those you have listed.
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 03:20:53 PM »
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    • Bad will and attachment to sin are the reasons they do not convert.

    When you take into consideration that Our Lord revealed that many are called but only a few are saved, then it all makes sense. Jesus knows His and they know Him. (John 10:14).
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 04:03:47 PM »
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    • Not all are evil politicians who are well on their way to hell but blindness/ignorance also play a part

    But we should never forget the first miracle of St. Theresa prior to the entry into the Carmel - when murderer P...was to be hanged and he showed no repentance. She asked for a sign from God and the priest went to the gallows, and just as they were hang him he took the crucifix from the priest and kissed it three times.

    A man I know took 38 years to come to the faith. Others I know have become worldlings yet still believe there is a God. And we never ever give up on any soul who passes our way, as our prayers [poor as they] touch the Heart of God and could well in time save their soul. After all their must have been someone praying for us- and one day they/those dear souls will be revealed.

    You realise that God is infinitely Patient and Merciful and we have Our Lady's intercession appealing for us.  

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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 11:36:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gail on March 29, 2017, 04:03:47 PM
    A man I know took 38 years to come to the faith.   
    You mean he converted when he was 38 or 38 years since someone attempted to convert him?
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 01:33:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on March 30, 2017, 01:27:52 AM
    If you go on MHFM's site, you will read about 1 or 2 conversions at least per week in their E-Exchanges.
    Those don't count since they're just being hoodwinked into heresy and error. It just makes it worse for the Dimonds when the time comes to face up to what they have done and are doing. 
    Might as well say someone "converting" to Protestantism or Orthodox counts as a true conversion. 
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 01:41:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on March 30, 2017, 01:38:03 AM
    Wow. So telling people they have to convert or be damned is heresy? That's new.
    They tell people to convert to THEIR erroneous idea of Catholicism, much like any other heretic in history.
    You'd best ditch them and their errors while you still can.
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 01:45:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on March 30, 2017, 01:38:03 AM
    It just makes it worse for you when the time comes to discourage people from converting to the True Faith. (See I can do it too)
    Except you have no basis whatever to claim this other than a couple of weirdos born in the 70's, while I have the true and accepted Catholic teaching on my side.
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #8 on: March 30, 2017, 01:47:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on March 30, 2017, 01:44:23 AM
    They tell people to convert to the True Catholic Faith, much like any real Catholic in history has done. You'd best ditch your errors while you still can.
    Claiming BOD/BOB are heretical, or dogmatic sedevacantism, among other things, is not the true Catholic Faith.
    But you go ahead and follow them into the pit if you want to so bad. You've been warned already.
    "El que peca advertido peca dos veces."
    Over and out.
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #9 on: March 30, 2017, 02:06:23 AM »
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    • Start a thread? In your dreams. I will not waste my time anymore arguing with the likes of you. All that needs to be said has been said already.
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #10 on: March 30, 2017, 02:16:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on March 30, 2017, 01:56:04 AM
    Claiming that BOD/BOB are Church teaching and that a heretic is in the Church is not the Catholic Faith. You go ahead and preach your errors and lead souls into hell like your father. You have been warned. (I like arguing with you, I don't have to do any real thinking, or prove anything. It's all your word against mine. If you want to debate something, again, start a thread. Just don't try to divert by asking pointless questions like, "how old are you?", or threaten to tell on me to Matthew like a baby.)
    Do you realize how much time you waste daily, weekly, monthly and yearly arguing about the same old thing? Do you have a job or a life?
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #11 on: March 30, 2017, 10:29:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: countrychurch on March 29, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
    I am so inspired by people who were once "lost but now [are] found, blind but now I see"

    But the thing that really, really disturbs me is that there seem to be so few of those stories.


    As far as we know:

    • Hillary never repented
    • Eric Holder never repented
    • Lois Lerner.. ditto
    • Edward Snowden
    • Bill Clinton
    • Spitzer


    Ok.. the list goes on.. don't want to be here all day
    I am also greatly inspired by conversion stories!    ;D
    There are many of them.  You just have to know where to look   :)
    One of my most treasured possessions is this set of books with a life of one of the saints for every day of the year:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lives-of-the-Saints-Alban-Butler-5-Volumes-Traditional-Catholic-1936-/160547356860?hash=item25615e40bc:m:mhE4Gh7uly0ZXes4iQ7FX-Q
    In it are explained the lives of many saints who previously led terrible lives but converted.
    Some of my favorites are:
    1. Saint Augustine
    2.  Saint Mary of Eygpt
    3.  Saint Mary the Penitent (Her uncle was Saint Abraham the hermit.)
    4.  Saint Clovis King of France (Married to Saint Clotilde)
    5.  Saint Mary Magdelene
    This set of books I added the link to it the safe traditional Catholic version.  Be careful when buying other copies of "The Lives of the Saints" because many versions have been edited by the modernists.  
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #12 on: March 30, 2017, 10:41:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gail on March 29, 2017, 04:03:47 PM
    Not all are evil politicians who are well on their way to hell but blindness/ignorance also play a part

    But we should never forget the first miracle of St. Theresa prior to the entry into the Carmel - when murderer P...was to be hanged and he showed no repentance. She asked for a sign from God and the priest went to the gallows, and just as they were hang him he took the crucifix from the priest and kissed it three times.

    A man I know took 38 years to come to the faith. Others I know have become worldlings yet still believe there is a God. And we never ever give up on any soul who passes our way, as our prayers [poor as they] touch the Heart of God and could well in time save their soul. After all their must have been someone praying for us- and one day they/those dear souls will be revealed.

    You realise that God is infinitely Patient and Merciful and we have Our Lady's intercession appealing for us.  


    Actually I reason wanted to kept details of the gentleman anonymous. But to answer your question;  this gentleman is my husband we have been married 45 years in May and he is close to 70.  It took 38 years of Masses/ prayers of friends etc to gain this conversion, but with it came the grace of holy death of his mother.
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #13 on: March 30, 2017, 11:50:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gail on March 30, 2017, 10:41:12 AM
    Actually I reason wanted to kept details of the gentleman anonymous. But to answer your question;  this gentleman is my husband we have been married 45 years in May and he is close to 70.  It took 38 years of Masses/ prayers of friends etc to gain this conversion, but with it came the grace of holy death of his mother.

    A very edifying account of your husband's conversion, as well as the grace of a holy death for his mother. Thanks for posting it.
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: I love conversion stories--but why are there so few of them?
    « Reply #14 on: March 30, 2017, 11:54:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on March 30, 2017, 10:29:49 AM
    I am also greatly inspired by conversion stories!    ;D
    There are many of them.  You just have to know where to look   :)
    One of my most treasured possessions is this set of books with a life of one of the saints for every day of the year:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lives-of-the-Saints-Alban-Butler-5-Volumes-Traditional-Catholic-1936-/160547356860?hash=item25615e40bc:m:mhE4Gh7uly0ZXes4iQ7FX-Q
    In it are explained the lives of many saints who previously led terrible lives but converted.
    Some of my favorites are:
    1. Saint Augustine
    2.  Saint Mary of Eygpt
    3.  Saint Mary the Penitent (Her uncle was Saint Abraham the hermit.)
    4.  Saint Clovis King of France (Married to Saint Clotilde)
    5.  Saint Mary Magdelene
    This set of books I added the link to it the safe traditional Catholic version.  Be careful when buying other copies of "The Lives of the Saints" because many versions have been edited by the modernists.  

    Someday I hope to purchase Butler's Lives of the Saints, when I can afford it. That's a very good list of penitent saints. Saint Mary of Egypt is one of my favorite saints, but I've not ever heard of Saint Mary the Penitent. I'll have to look her up on Google.
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29
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