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Offline rosary93

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I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
« on: May 02, 2017, 01:37:39 PM »
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  • I think the Vatican is infiltrated by too many anti-Christs (yes, i know, one is too many)

    so why should we even concern ourselves w/ what goes on there?

    Frankly, I think when it comes to the NO churches

    Jesus has left the building


    ?

    OK, maybe His Presence is there, in some, maybe even most of them. But I wonder if He will stay there much longer?

    just wondering


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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #1 on: May 02, 2017, 04:44:28 PM »
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  • N.O. has no presence of God.  It was taken over by Bolshevik Communism in Russia and Europe, forcefully and the "Error" continues around the world.  Brazil, forced.  THE USA must be slow and subtle.  Like clams in cold water and slowly boiled. It is prophesy.  Prepare yourself for the 2n Coming of Christ.  Go where ever you can feed upon the True Precious Body and Blood.


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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 05:07:19 AM »
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  • From the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 16; 

    13  When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi  he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter said in reply, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. 18 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 05:24:29 PM »
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  • N.O. has no presence of God.  
    that is not true. It is essentially true of masses said by non-believing or obstinately heretical priests but there are a few (very few imo) priests who are sincere and striving for holiness

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 05:25:17 PM »
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  • From the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 16;

    13  When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi  he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter said in reply, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. 18 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
    and your point is that the Real Presence is in the N.O churches also?


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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 11:44:06 PM »
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  • and your point is that the Real Presence is in the N.O churches also?
    My point is that Jesus founded one Church with one visible head who we should respect.  

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #6 on: May 04, 2017, 04:32:33 AM »
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  • that is not true. It is essentially true of masses said by non-believing or obstinately heretical priests but there are a few (very few imo) priests who are sincere and striving for holiness
    The few NO priests who are sincere and striving for holiness - if they actually are sincere and striving for holiness, have been or will be led out of the NO faith and into the true faith - same as everyone who sincerely seeks the truth and strives for holiness. 

    What does that say for those who remain or still go to the NO?    
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #7 on: May 04, 2017, 07:23:41 AM »
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  • The few NO priests who are sincere and striving for holiness - if they actually are sincere and striving for holiness, have been or will be led out of the NO faith and into the true faith - same as everyone who sincerely seeks the truth and strives for holiness.  

    What does that say for those who remain or still go to the NO?    
    ...that what they have not found, they have not sought with due diligence and good will towards God.


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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2017, 01:34:31 PM »
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  • My point is that Jesus founded one Church with one visible head who we should respect.  
    i give respect where respect is DUE
    no one gets MY respect w/o DOING what is right
    I didn't used to like Trump much.. didn't like the way he insulted Rand Paul and others and etc... etc.. But he is DOING the right thing
    and so, he has my respect (although i may not agree w/ him on healthcare, but I still respect him regardless b/c of what he has done w/ jobs, foreign affairs, getting that prisoner out of [ I think it was] Iran, etc)

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #9 on: May 05, 2017, 01:36:36 PM »
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  • The few NO priests who are sincere and striving for holiness - if they actually are sincere and striving for holiness, have been or will be led out of the NO faith and into the true faith - same as everyone who sincerely seeks the truth and strives for holiness.  

    What does that say for those who remain or still go to the NO?    
    this is a very good point, something I needed to see in print. In the back of my mind, i guess i was--what? making excuses for NO priests? I guess I just didn't think about all this until now
    But here's the thing: a lot of priests, even if they know the NO is not "right" will stay in the NO Church for selfish reasons. that is where all the power and money is 

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 08:20:09 AM »
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  • this is a very good point, something I needed to see in print. In the back of my mind, i guess i was--what? making excuses for NO priests? I guess I just didn't think about all this until now
    But here's the thing: a lot of priests, even if they know the NO is not "right" will stay in the NO Church for selfish reasons. that is where all the power and money is
    Jesus promised Peter that the gates of Hell would not prevail against the rock of Peter. He made no such promise in the case of Donald Trump.  


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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #11 on: May 11, 2017, 03:01:24 PM »
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  • Jesus promised Peter that the gates of Hell would not prevail against the rock of Peter. He made no such promise in the case of Donald Trump.  
    what?
    i did not mention Trump in my post so why ar you mentioning him?
    But since you did, Trump's actions are more Christian than the popes, which sadly, is not saying much
    :(

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #12 on: May 11, 2017, 11:52:07 PM »
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  • what?
    i did not mention Trump in my post so why ar you mentioning him?
    But since you did, Trump's actions are more Christian than the popes, which sadly, is not saying much
    :(
    You said, "i give respect where respect is DUE
    no one gets MY respect w/o DOING what is right
    I didn't used to like Trump much.. didn't like the way he insulted Rand Paul and others and etc... etc.. But he is DOING the right thing
    and so, he has my respect (although i may not agree w/ him on healthcare, but I still respect him regardless b/c of what he has done w/ jobs, foreign affairs, getting that prisoner out of [ I think it was] Iran, etc)"
    I am merely stating that Jesus promised that the gates of Hell would not prevail against Peter and his successors and that he would be with the Church that us in communion with him until the end of time. That is not a promise he made to Donald Trump.   

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #13 on: May 13, 2017, 05:24:25 AM »
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  • They have sent a Nigerian to Ireland. Fewer and fewer Irish are attending Novus Ordo churches. He replaces the American Charlie Brown. Brown was several years in Ireland before being sent to Albania in recent times 

    Archbishop Eamon Martin welcomes the appointment of Archbishop Jude Thaddeus Okolo as the Apostolic Nuncio to Ireland
    http://www.catholicbishops.ie/2017/05/13/archbishop-eamon-martin-welcomes-the-appointment-of-archbishop-jude-thaddeus-okolo-as-the-apostolic-nuncio-to-ireland/

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    Archbishop Eamon Martin, Archbishop of Armagh, has today welcomed the appointment by Pope Francis of Archbishop Jude Thaddeus Okolo as Apostolic Nuncio to Ireland. Congratulating Archbishop Okolo on his appointment, Archbishop Martin said:
    “I warmly welcome the appointment by His Holiness Pope Francis of Archbishop Jude Thaddeus Okolo as Apostolic Nuncio to Ireland and I wish him many blessings in his new role. Archbishop Okolo’s rich experience in the diplomatic service of the Holy See means that he brings many gifts to bear on his new mission in Ireland. I pray that his time among us as the representative of the Holy Father will be blessed and fruitful.”
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    · Archbishop Eamon Martin is Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland.

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    Re: I am no longer concerned with what goes on in the Vatican
    « Reply #14 on: May 13, 2017, 11:37:19 PM »
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  • They have sent a Nigerian to Ireland. Fewer and fewer Irish are attending Novus Ordo churches. He replaces the American Charlie Brown. Brown was several years in Ireland before being sent to Albania in recent times

    Archbishop Eamon Martin welcomes the appointment of Archbishop Jude Thaddeus Okolo as the Apostolic Nuncio to Ireland
    http://www.catholicbishops.ie/2017/05/13/archbishop-eamon-martin-welcomes-the-appointment-of-archbishop-jude-thaddeus-okolo-as-the-apostolic-nuncio-to-ireland/
    It has been my observation that the Africans are more friendly to Catholic Tradition.