I hope you can expand on this some time when it is convenient. I am trying to understand the implications of the distinction you made so more examples would be helpful.
A reminder about my question:
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Another example that comes to mind is from
Lumen gentium 8, where it says
the Church of Christ subsists in the Catholic Church..
They could have avoided all the confusion by using "is" instead of "subsists in". But never mnd the confusion, they say, this is not confusion, it's makig the text "clearer." So you see, for Modernists, when they muddy the waters they are clearing them up.
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If you listen to its defenders, they claim that Vat.II didn't change Church teaching with this. They have lots of explanations for why this is the case.
Lumen gentium ("LG") was written in 1964, and here in 2007 (43 years later) Zenit has an article that makes it "news" to explain what had happened 43 years prior (these controversies just don't go away):
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VATICAN CITY, JULY 10, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The Second Vatican Council didn’t change Catholic doctrine on the Church, but rather deepened and developed it, says the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith..In a docuмent released today the congregation clarifies, in the form of five questions and answers, the understanding of what Vatican II meant by the term “subsists in” with regard to the nature of the Catholic Church..Cardinal William Joseph Levada and Archbishop Angelo Amato, prefect and secretary of the congregation, respectively, signed the brief text June 29, the Solemnity of Sts. Peter and Paul..It is titled “Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church,” and was approved by Benedict XVI..The responses affirm that the “Second Vatican Council neither changed nor intended to change” Catholic doctrine on the Church, but rather “it developed, deepened and more fully explained it.”.Quoting Pope Paul VI, the docuмent explains that “what Christ willed, we also will. What was, still is. What the Church has taught down through the centuries, we also teach.”.It continues: “‘In simple terms that which was assumed, is now explicit; that which was uncertain, is now clarified; that which was meditated upon, discussed and sometimes argued over, is now put together in one clear formulation.'”.Word choice.The text explains the meaning of the term “subsists in,” which is used to describe the nature of the Catholic Church in “Lumen Gentium,” a docuмent of Vatican II. The docuмent states: “The Church of Christ … subsists in the Catholic Church.”.The doctrinal congregation explains in the clarification: “Christ ‘established here on earth’ only one Church and instituted it as a ‘visible and spiritual community,’ that from its beginning and throughout the centuries has always existed and will always exist, and in which alone are found all the elements that Christ himself instituted..“This Church, constituted and organized in this world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and the bishops in communion with him.”.The responses say that “it is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them.”.The docuмent further explains why the expression “subsists in” was adopted, instead of simply the word “is.”.“The use of this expression, which indicates the full identity of the Church of Christ with the Catholic Church, does not change the doctrine on the Church,” the docuмent affirmed..It continues: “Rather, it comes from and brings out more clearly the fact that there are ‘numerous elements of sanctification and of truth’ which are found outside her structure, but which ‘as gifts properly belonging to the Church of Christ, impel toward Catholic unity.'”...There is another thread here on CI where I read recently that this "elements of sanctification and truth" refer to vestiges of the True Faith, but they choose "elements" instead of "vestiges" because the more accurate term (vestiges) correctly identifies them as dead and therefore lifeless organs that have been stolen from the body of the Church, and once separated they have no life on their own. In order to avoid that clear image, Newchurch deceptively replaces it with "elements," saying they compel toward Catholic unity, when they actually do nothing of the sort, since dead organs do not function.
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