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Offline Stubborn

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Re: I am considering sedevacantism
« Reply #255 on: November 06, 2017, 03:19:25 PM »
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  • Absolutely, and the architect of this worldly idea had the temerity to define who and who isn't a sensible Catholic.
    How long were you a NOer? How is it that you don't submit to the Council - they're all automatically infallible don'tcha know? Between all councils being automatically infallible and all bishops even dispersed throughout the world being infallible, why do you not submit today like when you were in the NO? 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #256 on: November 06, 2017, 03:20:45 PM »
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    Sedevacantists consistently make a very dismal image for themselves. 
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    I have a routine stop I make on a main street in town. During the week the place is vacant but on Sunday afternoon there is a Protestant religious service held in the storefront space, visible from the street. They leave the doors open. A pedestrian on the sidewalk outside is overwhelmed with the amplified shouting of a man standing in the front of the room, who shouts his Bible verses and rhetoric in Spanish. It sounds like he's really mad about something. After a while, everyone stands up, and they strike up the band. The music and singing is terrible, monotonous and unedifying. Then everyone sits down. Their standing up and sitting down reminds me of sedevacantists at Mass. 
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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #257 on: November 06, 2017, 03:22:22 PM »
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  • Little children understand Santa coming down chimneys, and tooth fairies, and "a bug crawls off the daddy, and into the mommy's belly-button, and then the baby bug makes the baby out of food...", and...
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #258 on: November 06, 2017, 03:28:02 PM »
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    Sedevacantists consistently make a very dismal image for themselves.
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    I have a routine stop I make on a main street in town. During the week the place is vacant but on Sunday afternoon there is a Protestant religious service held in the storefront space, visible from the street. They leave the doors open. A pedestrian on the sidewalk outside is overwhelmed with the amplified shouting of a man standing in the front of the room, who shouts his Bible verses and rhetoric in Spanish. It sounds like he's really mad about something. After a while, everyone stands up, and they strike up the band. The music and singing is terrible, monotonous and unedifying. Then everyone sits down. Their standing up and sitting down reminds me of sedevacantists at Mass.
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    You remind me of a just, reasonable person; kind of like this dude I read who treats of satellites...

    I wish that you would treat of the faith, and its study, even half as carefully and ardently as you categorically abuse Sedvacantists.

    You are either turning your brain, or your character, off.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #259 on: November 06, 2017, 03:37:46 PM »
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  • Little children understand Santa coming down chimneys, and tooth fairies, and "a bug crawls off the daddy, and into the mommy's belly-button, and then the baby bug makes the baby out of food...", and...
    And another dogmatic sede with nothing Catholic to say pops in.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #260 on: November 06, 2017, 03:45:45 PM »
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    Sedevacantists consistently make a very dismal image for themselves.
    Unlike other trads who have managed to purge the NO from themselves, seems obvious the sedes still suffer from their years of exposure. Like NOers, they learned to say one thing (all councils infallible, all bishops infallible, being subject to the pope is being subject to God, etc.) but do the contrary, then blame it all on the pope.

    The poor souls are a confused lot.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #261 on: November 06, 2017, 03:46:27 PM »
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  • And another dogmatic sede with nothing Catholic to say pops in.
    ... and another lying, PoS, womanish, heretic with nothing Catholic, or even rational, to say chimes in...
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #262 on: November 06, 2017, 03:50:42 PM »
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  • Never was really, maybe 30 days.

    Was an altar boy in the early 70's then fell away from the Church and lived a riotous life until 2000, and for some reason God called me back to work. A perfect example of His mercy.
    Deo Gratias for that!

    But then where do you come up with the NO teaching that the pope and all councils and all bishops dispersed... etc. are automatically infallible?
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #263 on: November 06, 2017, 03:51:53 PM »
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  • You've explained it quite well, man...

    1.) Bergoglio is the head of the Catholic Church and simultaneously the head of a false church (what you call the conciliar church)

    2.) Bergoglio is a heretic

    3.) Bergoglio is the principle and center of the unity of the church = a heretic is the principle and center of the unity of the church (this is heresy, by the way)

    4.) You are Bergoglios good subject = you are the good subject of a heretic


    That's it in a nutshell, man.  
    :facepalm:
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #264 on: November 06, 2017, 03:52:46 PM »
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  • ... and another lying, PoS, womanish, heretic with nothing Catholic, or even rational, to say chimes in...
    Now see, no one will have any trouble understanding you when you lie like that!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #265 on: November 06, 2017, 03:54:46 PM »
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  • Now see, no one will have any trouble understanding you when you lie like that!
    Note well, the tacit admission even while it persists in being a lying, PoS heretic.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #266 on: November 06, 2017, 04:15:35 PM »
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  • Note well, the tacit admission even while it persists in being a lying, PoS heretic.
    LOL
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #267 on: November 06, 2017, 04:34:33 PM »
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  • My apologies, I shouldn't have laughed but dang, it's funny already. Do you realize you say nothing of substance at all and for what seems for like the last month, all you have done is insult me and call me a heretic? You never substantiate anything, all you do is blurt out things ridiculous.    

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #268 on: November 06, 2017, 04:42:25 PM »
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  • ... all you do is blurt out things ridiculous.    
    It blurts, ridiculously...

    We could assume that it is "waxing Victorian", but this is contraindicated by its other log-poundings.

    "LOL" = epitaph.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #269 on: November 07, 2017, 10:37:51 AM »
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    Stubborn,

    I want to see you deny anything he just said there.
    Why? Be honest, would it do any good to say it / explain it / prove it again that it is only my opinion that he and the conciliar popes have been/were/are heretics? Would it do any good for your souls to explain again that my opinion, like your opinion, like everyone's opinion does not mean a thing as regards the popes' status? Yes or no? No, of course it won't do any good.

    You sedes keep changing my words by replacing pope with heretic, then say that's what I am saying, then challenge me to deny it? It's beyond despicable already.


    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse