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Offline songbird

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Re: I am considering sedevacantism
« Reply #90 on: October 25, 2017, 10:59:39 PM »
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  • Page 509 of The Whole Truth: words of Sr.Lucia to Fr. Fuentes: This satanic project of attacking first  on all consecrated souls and priests, this necessity for the faithful to be converted to a holier life w/o waiting for a call to penance "on the part of the Holy Father for the whole world, on the part of bishops for their dioceses, or from the religious congregations.  In other words, in December of 1957, even before the death of Pius XII, Our Lady's messenger already foresaw the grave crisis the Church would have to face. 

    Page 508 Sr. Lucia states: No matter how difficult any problem is, the Rosary solves the problem.  Our Lady has given "new efficacy" to the recitation of the Rosary.

    So, each person must not only save his/her own soul, but also all the souls that God has place on our path..

    Even Sedevacantist pray for their enemies: even if it be the one who claims to be pope,  Catholics pray for the enemy and that is what Our Lady is asking for us to do.


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #91 on: October 26, 2017, 01:22:37 AM »
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  • Even the most succulent is repulsive, if served with a side of shit.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #92 on: October 26, 2017, 02:26:12 AM »
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    Ignoramus quote.
    You are a blasphemous LIAR!  You and your Diamond sisters claim that Pope Pius XII Consecrated Russia, you LIARS! Where's the conversion?! Where's the peace?! Fifty years without a pope YOU say, Russia still in schism, the West preparing for the war of ALL wars, and you say Russia has been Consecrated! You make me sick! Go back to the halls of Legion were you belong, you PIG!
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    DZ you were not direct, as to who your comment is directed to?   Me or the Ignoramus.
    You. 
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #93 on: October 26, 2017, 05:18:27 AM »
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  • Even the most succulent is repulsive, if served with a side of shit.
    We finally agree on something ha ha!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #94 on: October 26, 2017, 01:36:39 PM »
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  • We finally agree on something ha ha!
    Save, clearly though typically, which be which.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #95 on: October 27, 2017, 04:46:52 PM »
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    Stubborn all that you serve is garbage, period!  You are a devil, a heretic.
    Did you fall down and go boom again?
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #96 on: October 27, 2017, 06:06:22 PM »
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  • Too many scams riding on Russia never being consecrated, regardless of the facts; it's become an industry.

    What is it that's said about the love of money?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #97 on: October 27, 2017, 07:00:20 PM »
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  • Evidently. That and a cult following.
    Sheep to fleece, and where there're cults, there's perversion and loot involved; it's like the 'marriage' of Catholicism, and Scientology.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #98 on: October 30, 2017, 03:16:10 PM »
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  • Sheep to fleece, and where there're cults, there's perversion and loot involved; it's like the 'marriage' of Catholicism, and Scientology.
    Cults don't always have money, especially if it is spent as fast as it is received.  Perversion has a broad range.

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #99 on: October 30, 2017, 03:19:58 PM »
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  • Cults don't always have money, especially if it is spent as fast as it is received.  Perversion has a broad range.
    Even granting that were true ma'am, by your very words money is involved; it doesn't have to be profit optimized or directed.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #100 on: October 30, 2017, 03:33:47 PM »
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  • I am a revert to the faith since around 2010. I came into the church under pope Benedict 16. I have studied as much of the faith as I am able to comprehend. I am certainly no theologian and actually more of a tradesman. A couple of things have been persuading me that the sedevecantist are correct. Comparing the church we have now to what it was before V2 it seems clear that a defacto new religion was created. I know that dogma has remained the same however the actual teaching of priests and bishops ignores much pre v2 morality. There is no preaching on sɛҳuąƖ morality including contraception or adultery, no preaching on confession or sin, no preaching on our duty as Catholics to obey church teaching. I don't see how the current church bears any resemblance to what my Catholic ancestors experienced. Now we have a pope that is sort of just rolling out policy after policy that seems to diminish the churches teachings for example Amoris Lateticia. Any thought on why you don't flee the church are welcome. God Bless!
    I have been traditional Catholic for 32 years.
    Every good Catholic has investigated sedevecantism, so good for you.  Sedevecantis are the most charitable people I have ever met.
    In as much as it is easy to say "he CAN'T be our pope because he is not Catholic," the pope is indeed our pope, practicing Catholic or not.
    What it boiled down to me was this: 
    It takes a lot of gall to say I know better (that the pope is not the pope)
    It is more plausible that the pope is the head of two churches.  
    God knows all and will sort it all out.


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #101 on: October 30, 2017, 03:36:47 PM »
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  • It takes gall to accord with Catholic teaching, but not to contradict it.

    "Good, is evil"
    "Up, is down"
    "Left, is right"
    "Black, is white"
    "Lies, are truth."
    "etc., etc,...."
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #102 on: October 30, 2017, 04:06:56 PM »
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  • I have been traditional Catholic for 32 years.
    Every good Catholic has investigated sedevecantism, so good for you.  Sedevecantis are the most charitable people I have ever met.
    In as much as it is easy to say "he CAN'T be our pope because he is not Catholic," the pope is indeed our pope, practicing Catholic or not.
    What it boiled down to me was this:
    It takes a lot of gall to say I know better (that the pope is not the pope)
    It is more plausible that the pope is the head of two churches.  
    God knows all and will sort it all out.

    I have to agree to most of what you wrote, except for where you say that sedevacantists are the most charitable people you have ever met. Evidently, you haven't spent much time on this forum.
    Most of the Sedevacantists here spiteful and very arrogant. They are basically the Jєωs of the trad movement. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #103 on: October 30, 2017, 04:23:59 PM »
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  • I have to agree to most of what you wrote, except for where you say that sedevacantists are the most charitable people you have ever met. Evidently, you haven't spent much time on this forum.
    Most of the Sedevacantists here spiteful and very arrogant. They are basically the Jєωs of the trad movement.
    "Met" not "read"...  :)

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #104 on: October 30, 2017, 04:32:23 PM »
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  • It takes gall to accord with Catholic teaching, but not to contradict it.

    "Good, is evil"
    "Up, is down"
    "Left, is right"
    "Black, is white"
    "Lies, are truth."
    "etc., etc,...."
    You're an idiot.
    Why Matthew allows you here is beyond me.