DZ, you make many good points, at times, but your replies are becoming more and more riddle-esque.  Most times, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.  You are beginning to replace Wessex as the most mysterious poster.  I would enjoy hearing your opinion.  If you could be less complex; it would do this site good.

At least.

You are going down a dangerous path. Please show me how Pope Pius XII was a manifest heretic?

Please give an example.....

I am not talking about teaching and infallibility. That is another topic.

>> I'm glad that you understand that; for many don't seem to.

In this post, I am limiting the discussion to Papal supremacy and Francis as a manifest obstinate heretic.

>> Redundant ma'am, for a heretic is obstinate by definition.

In light of the definition of Papal Supremacy by Vatican I, isn't the Pope now

>> Now ma'am? Just because a thing is defined at a later date, doesn't mean that it wasn't always so; quite the reverse in these matters, actually.

considered to be supreme even over an Ecuмenical Council and over a council of bishops?  Even if a council of bishops declares Francis to be manifest obstinate heretic, which they have, Francis could deny it, which he has already done.

>> Ma'am, please note that there is a basic distinction involved between the sin and the crime; I believe that it was correctly alluded to previously. This is one of the reasons why it is ridiculous to hold that popes, as such, are deposed by any save themselves or God. "The pope is judged by none."

>> The pope is the supreme judge. What this caddywhumpus thinking reflects is an inversion of order. Also, on principle and by extension then, priest could depose bishops/ordinaries, or laity priests. I wish it worked that way in the world, because then we could all just sign a petition and fire the supreme court. Doesn't work that way.

However, if a heretical Pope,

>> Ma'am, do yourself a favor, and forget "heretical" pope. It only confuses the issue. A hereticAL pope, could be so inadvertently as the "...AL" even suggests; otherwise he'd just be a heretIC, and so no longer pope. People might think that he's pope, be he no longer is. 

For example say that Geocentrism were actually an article of faith. People can and have been wrong and confused about the status of various propositions, but a Catholic, for another example, shown that the Blessed Virgin's virginity was, is, and will always be so, will give proper assent. Until that time, innocently holding otherwise, their position is hereticAL. They are not heretics because of they are not (obstinate/STUBBORN/pertinacious etc...)

>> Conversely, say they're ostensible Protestant converts, they still maintain that she had other natural children in spite of being shown and told, would be a heretic. Remember, these things aren't directly of reason, but by faith, in God revealing; i.e., "Because God said so."

as a manifest heretic, decides to tamper with all the Ecuмenical Councils that have ever taken place serious damage could be done.

>> I think that you've more than an adequate grasp of the ludicrousness of the situation. Your choice of words is a bit off, and prone to feed bad thinking though. A pope who falls into manifest heresy is deposed "ipso facto", by that very fact. Heretics can neither bind, nor loose, anything of the faith. They are imposters, they may appear to; otherwise the gates of Hell prevail, there would be no ONE faith, because these shenanigans WOULD (note conditional and tense) wreak havoc on the unity of the faith, external and otherwise. There would be no HOLY faith, because Christ is belied. There would be no CATHOLIC faith (there isn't enough room or time to go into universals, theologic or philosophic)

If a supreme pope

>> Not to nitpick ma'am, but our representations are our "software". As the Angelic tells us, a small error at the outset, grows over time. "Supreme pope" is, again, redundant.

can change or void the decisions and canons of all Ecuмenical Councils,

>> Smaller bites ma'am. YOu're making some pretty scary leaps; you're tacitly dropping a passel of distinct categories into a blender, and hitting "frappe".

>> Enough for now. It's getting a little of the rails.

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Exhibit A^ This is one of the problems with sedevacantism.  
Quite an interregnum we're having, isn't it?

What on Earth does that have to do with Pope Pius XII??