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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: I am considering sedevacantism
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 11:04:18 AM »
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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 11:18:43 AM »
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  • I am asking these questions below for the benefit of those who are considering the sedevacantist position.

    1. If priests in the CMRI are sedevacantists, who do they commemorate in the Canon of the Mass?

    2. Do they mention the name of a bishop instead of Francis? If so, who?

    Right now, I am a home aloner because my husband cannot drive long distances (more than 15 to 30 minutes at the maximum) as he  suffered a stroke and was advised not to travel for any lengthy period of time by his doctors. I cannot drive either, and unless we have a friend who is willing to take us, we cannot attend church regularly. However, even being a passenger is a danger. I really miss not receiving Holy Communion, but we do say our prayers at home, and we try to pray unceasingly observing the presence of God within us as much as possible.
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 11:25:09 AM »
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  • Ostensible examples of some "human creatures" not subject to the Roman Pontiff:

    1. Generations of Senpuku Kirishitan.
    2. The baptized sans... :
     1. The use of reason.
     2. Actual volition.
    3. (s.a. "The Great Western Schism.")
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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 11:32:02 AM »
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  • DZ, you make many good points, at times, but your replies are becoming more and more riddle-esque.  Most times, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.  You are beginning to replace Wessex as the most mysterious poster.  I would enjoy hearing your opinion.  If you could be less complex; it would do this site good.

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 11:33:24 AM »
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  • I am asking these questions below for the benefit of those who are considering the sedevacantist position.

    1. If priests in the CMRI are sedevacantists, who do they commemorate in the Canon of the Mass?

    2. Do they mention the name of a bishop instead of Francis? If so, who?

    Right now, I am a home aloner because my husband cannot drive long distances (more than 15 to 30 minutes at the maximum) as he  suffered a stroke and was advised not to travel for any lengthy period of time by his doctors. I cannot drive either, and unless we have a friend who is willing to take us, we cannot attend church regularly. However, even being a passenger is a danger. I really miss not receiving Holy Communion, but we do say our prayers at home, and we try to pray unceasingly observing the presence of God within us as much as possible.
    Ma'am, with all due it is imprecise to refer to oneself as a "home aloner" in your circumstances.

    A home aloner would be someone who, for example,  choses to not receive sacraments or otherwise participate in what they hold is invalid and/or illicit.

    You just sound like someone who doesn't/can't go due to external circumstance, and not to doubts or mental reservations however in/sufficient, and irregardless of gravity.

    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 11:37:45 AM »
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  • DZ, you make many good points, at times, but your replies are becoming more and more riddle-esque.  Most times, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.  You are beginning to replace Wessex as the most mysterious poster.  I would enjoy hearing your opinion.  If you could be less complex; it would do this site good.
    Kind to say but often, as here and now, it is me trying to be simple, transparent,  brief, and clear.

    Besides, it's not like these are my "ideas"; I'm not just "makin' crap up."

    Perhaps, if it's that bothersome, you would specify just where the wicket sticks for you.

    Thanks.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 11:48:04 AM »
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  • I am asking these questions below for the benefit of those who are considering the sedevacantist position.

    1. If priests in the CMRI are sedevacantists, who do they commemorate in the Canon of the Mass?

    2. Do they mention the name of a bishop instead of Francis? If so, who?


    Right now, I am a home aloner because my husband cannot drive long distances (more than 15 to 30 minutes at the maximum) as he  suffered a stroke and was advised not to travel for any lengthy period of time by his doctors. I cannot drive either, and unless we have a friend who is willing to take us, we cannot attend church regularly. However, even being a passenger is a danger. I really miss not receiving Holy Communion, but we do say our prayers at home, and we try to pray unceasingly observing the presence of God within us as much as possible.
    When a True pope in the past dies and in between the new pope being elected, that period is called Interregnum a term used between two heads, I am sure you know that.  During this time the Church does not name anyone but prays for the intention of the Church.  The intention of the Church should be the same as praying for a particular name of a Pope anyway, I think!  I am not a theologian perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable can explain better.  However, the answer to your number 2. is NO, the name of our bishop is not mentioned.  
    As far as CMRI or any other group, SSPX or... if you live close enough to them, I feel they would come to your home to meet you and administer the sacraments, home alone is not the way to go, but I am not in your shoes, only you can decide what is best for your soul.  

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 11:48:27 AM »
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  • Ma'am, with all due it is imprecise to refer to oneself as a "home aloner" in your circumstances.

    A home aloner would be someone who, for example,  choses to not receive sacraments or otherwise participate in what they hold is invalid and/or illicit.

    You just sound like someone who doesn't/can't go due to external circumstance, and not to doubts or mental reservations however in/sufficient, and irregardless of gravity.
    I will not attend the local Novus Ordo parish even though it is within walking distance/driving distance, for it is only five minutes away by car. In addition to the Revolutionary Mass of Red Cardinal Mahony, that local NO parish was singing songs filled with Satanic inferences such as circles and rings back in the late 1980s. This pointed out to me by a devout Catholic gentleman whose wife suffered from severe Parkinson's Disease and who would not leave her alone in that condition. He stopped attending that NO parish or any other one. At that time, an independent priest, Fr. Frederick Schell, was still alive and visited them frequently bringing Holy Communion to the couple
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 11:49:48 AM »
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  • DZ, you make many good points, at times, but your replies are becoming more and more riddle-esque.  Most times, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.  You are beginning to replace Wessex as the most mysterious poster.  I would enjoy hearing your opinion.  If you could be less complex; it would do this site good.
    What is "enjoyable" about hearing the opinion of a bipolar Fr. Pfeiffer seminary washout?

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 11:56:26 AM »
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  • What is "enjoyable" about hearing the opinion of a bipolar Fr. Pfeiffer seminary washout?
    Some of his posts make sense. As for being in Fr. Pfeiffler's seminary, I would not know, but from Matthew's posts, anyone from that seminary would come out a crock pot or basket case.  We must pray for them.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #25 on: October 21, 2017, 12:09:23 PM »
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  • I will not attend the local Novus Ordo parish even though it is within walking distance/driving distance, for it is only five minutes away by car. In addition to the Revolutionary Mass of Red Cardinal Mahony, that local NO parish was singing songs filled with Satanic inferences such as circles and rings back in the late 1980s. This pointed out to me by a devout Catholic gentleman whose wife suffered from severe Parkinson's Disease and who would not leave her alone in that condition. He stopped attending that NO parish or any other one. At that time, an independent priest, Fr. Frederick Schell, was still alive and visited them frequently bringing Holy Communion to the couple
    Based on your note this priest might help you, I believe he is in your area.
    I met him a few weeks ago at the CMRI Fatima Conference, he was there to meet our Bishop because he wants to rectify his ordination.  Sorry, I do not know the details of the why of it or what happened when he met with our Bishop.
    http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/sos-series-of-sermons-by-father-joseph-colletti-1-video

    The link shows he is at 9621 Bixby Ave, in Garden Grove, Calif. 
     


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #26 on: October 21, 2017, 12:26:03 PM »
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  • Some of his posts make sense. As for being in Fr. Pfeiffler's seminary, I would not know, but from Matthew's posts, anyone from that seminary would come out a crock pot or basket case.  We must pray for them.
    Dizzy has made several posts about his time in Boston, KY. But, I don't think Fr. Pfeiffer can be blamed for his mental state and lack of coherence. Dizzy's a basket case all on his own.

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #27 on: October 21, 2017, 12:27:33 PM »
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  • What is "enjoyable" about hearing the opinion of a bipolar Fr. Pfeiffer seminary washout?
    It's more "enjoyable" than hearing some mutt crap out the wrong end.

    You, "sir", are a despicable liar and calumniator.

    But, hey, when did facts ever  get in the way of a good story, like the 'gospel" of Flat Earth?

    You just don't care if you sin. You don't care if you lie, cast calumny, scandalize....
    Your father is the Devil.
    Scumbag.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #28 on: October 21, 2017, 01:35:39 PM »
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  • It is astounding how many people fail to see the big picture/practical application of this topic in regards to us.

    Will God punish you for accepting an antipope as pope and praying for him if he has not been officially condemned by the Church?   Of course not.

    Will God punish someone for calling a true pope an antipope and refusing to pray for him, even though God and Our Lady ask us to pray for the pope? Probably yes.

    So just remember to make sure you have ALL of your "i"s dotted and your "t"s crossed before  you become sedevacantist. And remember these quotes:

    "Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."- Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam

    "If by the Roman Church you mean its head or pontiff, it is beyond question that he can err even in matters touching the faith. He does this when he teaches heresy by his own judgement or decretal. In truth, many Roman Pontiffs were heretics. The last of them was John XXII."-Pope Adrian VI

    "Pray for the pope, the bishops, and the priests"-Our Lady of Fatima/Akita


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    Re: I am considering sedevacantism
    « Reply #29 on: October 21, 2017, 01:39:30 PM »
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  • Little by little, dizzy's disguise is coming off.  His true colors are starting to run.

    Let's get this straight.

    Someone calls someone a "bipolar Fr. Pfeiffer seminary washout," and gets met - from the person sullied, mind you - with "your father is the Devil. Scumbag," and the calumniated, not the calumniator, gets the negative comment.

    Wow.

    We may have the true faith, but we got no corner on the market of moral judgment.
    "[L]et us hold most firmly that, in accordance with Catholic teaching, there is 'one God, one faith, one baptism' [Eph. 4:5]; it is unlawful to proceed further in inquiry."

    Pope Pius IX, Singulari quadem

     

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