I have a few questions concerning the below opinions of the Dimond brothers on how to attend mass ,wondering what the take of sedevacantists especially would be, I have emailed the dimonds and are waiting their response .I know most of you don’t like them but I do agree with most of their points except here I have some questions.

How One Could Attend These Churches

While there isn’t an obligation to go to any heretic to receive Communion, here is my personal opinion on how a person could go to a church to receive the sacraments where they believe and pray for Benedict XVI as pope.  As stated earlier, at this point in the present apostasy, you are really not going for the Mass, but only to receive the sacraments.

If you decide to go to him to receive Communion and confession, I would not recommend going to the priest’s Mass on time.  A person could arrive late, maybe about 10 minutes before Communion is given.  It might even be better to go on Monday through Saturday, instead of on Sunday.  There is no Sunday obligation to go to a heretic.  Also, as we have stated many times before, no one may give donations to these heretical priests.  If a person does support them, he or she commits a grave sin and is directly supporting a heretical priest and/or a heretical organization.  A person should not pray with the other people at the Mass or liturgy.  A person should say the rosary or other prayers privately by themselves and not join in with the prayers or singing of the others present.

When you go to these churches, many have clear glass windows when you enter in the back.  A person could pray the rosary out there until they see Holy Communion is about to be distributed.  If a person does go into the main part of the church, he or she should sit in the very back.

The only people who can fruitfully receive the sacraments are those who agree with what the Catholic Church teaches.  Therefore, a person needs to be in full agreement with Catholic teaching on the following issues:

    1) You agree that you must be a Catholic to be saved.  You absolutely agree that anyone who is not a Catholic will sadly be lost forever.

    2) You agree that Benedict XVI is a heretic, and therefore cannot be a true Catholic pope.  You do not go to the New Mass.

    3) If you are a married person, you don’t use artificial or “natural” birth control (Natural Family Planning) to deliberately limit the size of your family.

The benefits of receiving Communion are obviously great, for it is to receive the body, blood, soul and divinity of God himself.  It’s the greatest action in which a person can take part during his brief earthly existence.  The absolute power and graces derived from worthily receiving valid Communion is usually something that is not given much or any weight by those who dogmatically declare that you may not go to a Mass where Benedict XVI is prayed for as pope.

The truth is that Communion is the most necessary thing for a Catholic outside of baptism.  We see this from the words of God Himself, “Amen, amen, I say unto you, except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.  Whosoever eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6)  Jesus threatens us, by telling us that we cannot have everlasting life unless we receive Him in communion.  Our Lord swears to it.  Therefore, if there is a validly ordained priest who meets the criteria mentioned earlier, a person may take advantage and receive the sacraments from him.  If not, then a person has to stay home.



He stated we are not going for the mass but only to receive the sacraments, I’m a little confused as to me this seems a little contradictory, if the communion is valid from this heretic priest, why wouldn’t the mass be also?
Then their belief is no one may give donations to these heretical priests. I’m aware that past popes have declared it a sin to support heretics, but that was before Vatican 2 where everyone had a valid church to go to. Now in this present apostasy I can only attend 1 SSPX church to receive the sacraments, I had my son baptized there and gave a financial gift. Am I going to be condemned to hell for this?

Now in this present apostasy I can only attend 1 SSPX church to receive the sacraments, I had my son baptized there and gave a financial gift. Am I going to be condemned to hell for this?

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Now in this present apostasy I can only . What the Dimond Brothers don't understand is that BOD, although it is not a Dogma of the Church, was believed by numerous Saints and Popes, as well as the Catechism of the Council of Trent and thw 1917 Code of Canon Law. Invincible ignorance was also taught by Pope Pius IX. Using the Dimond Brothers' logic, does this make all of those I mentioned "heretics" as well?

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thanks for the response,here's the Dimonds take on Pope Pius IX

POPE PIUS IX AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

 

     What about Pope Pius IX?  Isn’t it true that he taught that the invincibly ignorant could be saved in two docuмents?  What about Singulari Quadem and Quanto Conficiamur Moerore?

 

      Confusion on this topic has increased as a result of a few misunderstood statements from Pope Pius IX.  As we analyze these statements, it is imperative to keep in mind that, even if Pope Pius IX had taught that the invincibly ignorant could be saved on these two occasions, it wouldn’t mean that such a position is true, because they were fallible docuмents which could have contained error.  No pope can change or contradict dogma.  Pope Honorius, who reigned in the 7th century, was, in fact, later condemned for propagating heresy, though not in his solemn capacity teaching to the universal Church.  Thus, no one, not even a pope, can change the dogma that no one who dies outside the Catholic Church, ignorant or not, can be saved.  Here are some more quotes on ignorance.

 

Pope Benedict XV, Humani Generis Redemptionem (# 14), June 15, 1917: “…‘Ignorance is the mother of all errors,’ as the Fourth Lateran Council so truthfully observes.”[ccciii]

 

The Errors of Peter Abelard, Condemned by Innocent II, July 16, 1140, #10: “That they have not sinned who being ignorant have crucified Christ, and that whatever is done through ignorance must not be considered sin.” - Condemned[ccciv]

     

SINGULARI QUADEM, AN ALLOCUTION (A SPEECH TO THE CARDINALS)

 

     The first of the docuмents from Pope Pius IX, frequently quoted by those who believe in salvation outside the Church, is Singulari Quadem, an allocution (a speech to the cardinals) given December 9, 1854:

 

“....those who are affected by ignorance of the true religion, if it is invincible ignorance, are not subject to any guilt in this matter before the eyes of the Lord.”[cccv]

 

    First of all, this is a speech of Pope Pius IX to the cardinals.  It is not a dogmatic pronouncement, not even an encyclical, nor even an encyclical addressed to the entire Church.  

 

     But is Pope Pius IX saying that the invincibly ignorant can be justified and saved in their condition?  No.  Rather, he is stating that the “invincibly ignorant” will not be held accountable for the sin of infidelity, but they will still go to Hell.  Read carefully the last part of the sentence, “are not subject to any guilt IN THIS MATTER,” that is, in the matter of infidelity.  St. Thomas Aquinas explains that unbelievers who have never heard of the Gospel are damned for their other sins, which cannot be remitted without Faith, not because of the sin of infidelity (or disbelief in the Gospel).[cccvi]  These other sins of the unbelievers serve as the reason why God does not reveal the Gospel to them and which ultimately excludes them from salvation.  If one among them, however, were truly sincere and of good will, and cooperating with the natural law, then God would send a preacher (even miraculously, if necessary) to bring the Catholic Faith and baptism to him.  Pope Pius IX goes on to say in the same allocution concerning a person of good will who is invincibly ignorant:

 

“the gifts of heavenly grace will assuredly not be denied to those who sincerely want and pray for refreshment by the divine light…

 

St. Thomas Aquinas, De Veritate, 14, A. 11, ad 1: Objection- “It is possible that someone may be brought up in the forest, or among wolves; such a man cannot explicitly know anything about the faith.  St. Thomas replies- It is the characteristic of Divine Providence to provide every man with what is necessary for salvation… provided on his part there is no hindrance.  In the case of a man who seeks good and shuns evil, by the leading of natural reason, God would either reveal to him through internal inspiration what had to be believed, or would send some preacher of the faith to him…”[cccvii]

 

St. Thomas Aquinas, Sent. II, 28, Q. 1, A. 4, ad 4: “If a man born among barbarian nations, does what he can, God Himself will show him what is necessary for salvation, either by inspiration or sending a teacher to him.”[cccviii]

 

St. Thomas Aquinas, Sent. III, 25, Q. 2, A. 2, solute. 2: “If a man should have no one to instruct him, God will show him, unless he culpably wishes to remain where he is.”[cccix]

 

     Thus, Pope Pius IX was not teaching that people who are ignorant of the Catholic Faith can be saved; he was, rather, stating that such unbelievers are not damned for the matter of infidelity.  The fact that all who die as ignorant non-Catholics are not saved is the affirmation of all of Catholic Tradition and all the saints, besides being the dogmatic teaching of the Catholic Church.

 

St. Alphonsus Liguori, Sermons (c. +1760): “How many are born among the pagans, among the Jєωs, among the Mohometans and heretics, and all are lost.”[cccx]

 

St. Alphonsus: “If you are ignorant of the truths of the faith, you are obliged to learn them.  Every Christian is bound to learn the Creed, the Our Father, and the Hail Mary under pain of mortal sin.  Many have no idea of the Most Holy Trinity, the Incarnation, mortal sin, Judgment, Paradise, Hell, or Eternity; and this deplorable ignorance damns them.”[cccxi]

 

St. Alphonsus, Preparation For Death, (c. +1760): “How thankful we ought to be to Jesus Christ for the gift of faith!  What would have become of us if we had been born in Asia, Africa, America, or in the midst of heretics and schismatics?  He who does not believe is lost.  This, then, was the first and greatest grace bestowed on us: our calling to the true faith.  O Savior of the world, what would become of us if Thou hadst not enlightened us?  We would have been like our fathers of old, who adored animals and blocks of stone and wood: and thus we would have all perished.”[cccxii]

 

     Though Singulari Quadem of Pius IX did not teach the HERESY that one can be saved without the Catholic Faith by invincible ignorance, it is weakly worded.  Pope Pius IX should not have concerned himself with trying to satisfy the heretical minds of liberals and apostates who refuse to accept Church dogma.  He should have simply repeated the many times defined dogma that everyone who dies without the Catholic Faith is lost, and clearly explained that no one who is of good will will be left in ignorance of the true religion.  But because of his weakly worded statement, and the following one we will examine, a veritable disaster has resulted.  Almost every single person who wants to advance his heretical belief that one can be saved outside the Catholic Church quotes this fallible statement from Pope Pius IX and the other one we will examine.

 

     What’s interesting, however, and further confirms the point above, is that in Singulari Quadem, after explaining how the invincibly ignorant are not held guilty in this matter, Pope Pius IX declares that a Catholic must hold one Lord, one Faith and one Baptism, and that it is unlawful to proceed further in inquiry! – probably in an attempt to stem the tide of belief that one could be saved outside the Church by “baptism of desire.”  The people who believe in salvation outside the Church almost never quote this part of the allocution.

 

Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadem: “For, in truth, when released from these corporeal chains, ‘we shall see God as He is’ (1 John 3:2), we shall understand perfectly by how close and beautiful a bond divine mercy and justice are united; but, as long as we are on earth, weighed down by this mortal mass which blunts the soul, let us hold most firmly that, in accordance with Catholic teaching, there is ‘one God, one faith, one baptism’ [Eph. 4:5]; it is unlawful to proceed further in inquiry.”[cccxiii]

     

     Therefore, even Pope Pius IX, in the very statement wrongly quoted by the liberals against the dogma Outside the Church There is No Salvation, admonishes that such theorizing about salvation by other baptisms and other faiths is unlawful.

 

The biggest shame about the Diamond brothers is that those guys have so much God-given talent, that it is painful to watch as they mix truth and error.  They are very good at using the mass-media, the internet, mailings, etc., so it is a shame that men who could do so much good, have also caused so much confusion among Catholics.

I really wish the Diamonds would slow down, and study the Faith from the bottom up, forming a solid Catholic foundation.

If they did this, they would not have been led into errors such as denying baptism of desire, denying the moral teaching of the Church on the lawful use of the rhythm, telling Catholics to avoid masses of good priests or not supporting them if they do go, among others.

Dimonds have alot of good material, but I do not accept their "there are no priests anywhere in the world" quasi-mentality or the "just come for communion" tidbit.

Go find an old rite ordained priest that does the Traditional Latin Mass. Thats the best I have summarized from my research on this whole matter and let the rest into God's hands.