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Title: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: trad123 on April 25, 2019, 08:49:19 PM
2028 will be 70 years since the death of Pius XII.


Has anyone read both of these?


The Prophets and Our Times by Rev. R. Gerald Culleton

Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement by Yves Dupont
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: trad123 on April 25, 2019, 09:04:37 PM

http://drbo.org/chapter/53010.htm

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1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened to them in figure: and they are written for our correction, upon whom the ends of the world are come.


Here we are, enduring a spiritual Babylon.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 25, 2019, 09:14:32 PM
The Yves DuPont book is fantastic!
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Your Friend Colin on April 25, 2019, 09:25:45 PM
Won't 2027 be 100 years since Our Lady asked for the consecration of Russia?

Didn't Our Lord ask the king of France to consecrate the nation to His Sacred Heart but he and his successors refused? 100 years later the French Revolution started.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Capt McQuigg on April 26, 2019, 03:25:36 PM
We will endure this crisis as long as Our Lord Wills it. 

:pray: ---> Pray for end of the crisis.

:pray: ---> Pray for perseverance for all souls in the crisis
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Mega-fin on April 26, 2019, 03:29:51 PM
Won't 2027 be 100 years since Our Lady asked for the consecration of Russia?

Didn't Our Lord ask the king of France to consecrate the nation to His Sacred Heart but he and his successors refused? 100 years later the French Revolution started.
2029 will be the centenary of this. 
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Matthew on April 26, 2019, 09:38:07 PM
We will endure this crisis as long as Our Lord Wills it.

:pray: ---> Pray for end of the crisis.

:pray: ---> Pray for perseverance for all souls in the crisis

This.
We will endure the Crisis until Our Lord deigns to step in and rectify it. We will drink the chalice down to the dregs; in this case, down to the very last day the Crisis will last.
We will suffer the exact number of days the Crisis is to last, and not a day more. God is in control.
In the meantime, we need to pray, study, hope, and trust in God.

There are people who were born, and have already died, since the Crisis began.

My parents were married in a Trad independent chapel. I was married in an SSPX chapel. My children are being baptized at yet another independent chapel. Life goes on!
We have to save our souls in the meantime. None of us know if we will outlive the Crisis.

Imagine if my parents had gone apocalyptic and chosen to wait out the end of the world single, thinking the end was super near. Good thing they didn't! Life goes on. God bless the Trad movement, which has saved so many souls and preserved the Faith of many.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: poche on April 27, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
Jesus made the following promise to the Pope and to the Catholic Church; "And the gates of the hell can never overpower it."

Matthew 16:18
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Your Friend Colin on April 27, 2019, 01:38:22 PM
2029 will be the centenary of this.
Thank you. Let us prepare for that dreadful year.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: forlorn on April 27, 2019, 03:36:06 PM
2029 will be the centenary of this.
Centenary of what? 
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Nadir on April 27, 2019, 04:32:06 PM
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Didn't Our Lord ask the king of France to consecrate the nation to His Sacred Heart but he and his successors refused? 100 years later the French Revolution started.

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Mega-fin: 2029 will be the centenary of this. 
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Incredulous on April 27, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
Jesus made the following promise to the Pope and to the Catholic Church; "And the gates of the hell can never overpower it."

Matthew 16:18

Yeah Pocher, that's right.

It's just been "eclipsed" or covered-up like Our Lady of LaSalette warned.
Sadly, most people who call themselves Catholics today, don't really understand what the Catholic Church is :facepalm:
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: forlorn on April 27, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Well that's why I asked, Nadir, because it's just wrong. There was no King of France 100 years ago, and they said that the King of France was asked 100 years BEFORE the French Revolution, so not in 1929. The French Revolution happened in 1789, so once again not 100 years ago, not even close.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 27, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
1929 was when Our Lady appeared to Sr Lucia and asked for Russia to be consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart.  A few years later, in the mid 1930s, Our Lord appeared and was unhappy that the pope had not done the consecration.  Our Lord then said to Sr Lucy, (paraphrasing): “Woe to Rome.  As many years as it took the Kings of France to consecrate that country to me, so it will be with the popes and Russia.”
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Last Tradhican on April 27, 2019, 07:23:34 PM
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How much longer can we endure this crisis?
We will have to live with things the way they are till Catholics realize there is a crisis and return to live the faith. It does not look to me like that will be any time soon, as Catholics think everything is great and that only a few "nuts" think there is a crisis in the Church. As far as "enduring" it is not so hard to do, as no one is being beheading or ripped apart by hooks, or shot through with arrows for not burning incense to the gods.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 27, 2019, 07:36:26 PM

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As far as "enduring" it is not so hard to do, as no one is being beheading or ripped apart by hooks, or shot through with arrows for not burning incense to the gods.
Agree totally.  Things could get much worse.  Enjoy being able to attend Mass openly and having a Catholic school to send you children to.  Thank God that we can still have public religious processions.  These types of things aren’t happening much in Canada, where they are 20-30 yrs ahead of us as far as the police state and SJW nαzιs.  America has more religious freedoms than most other countries...at the moment. 
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: forlorn on April 27, 2019, 07:37:23 PM
We will have to live with things the way they are till Catholics realize there is a crisis and return to live the faith. It does not look to me like that will be any time soon, as Catholics think everything is great and that only a few "nuts" think there is a crisis in the Church. As far as "enduring" it is not so hard to do, as no one is being beheading or ripped apart by hooks, or shot through with arrows for not burning incense to the gods.
We will sooner see the entire NO apostasise than that. As it stands, the vast majority of young Catholics are heretics(in terms of basic stuff, like transubstantiation, birth control, etc.), and that's only counting the small percentage who actually do go to Mass and take their faith in any way seriously. When the current grey flock die off, the churches will empty and the remaining few who bother to go will barely be Catholic in belief at all. This is the Great Apostasy of the End Times, surely. 
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 27, 2019, 07:45:34 PM
When we get a truly Orthodox pope elected, I believe that the Church will be filled with converts and Catholics who grew up with the Novus Ordo, who never had the opportunity of Tradition.  Those Novus Ordo Catholics who have embraced conciliarism will never come back to the True Faith. 
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Your Friend Colin on April 27, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
Well that's why I asked, Nadir, because it's just wrong. There was no King of France 100 years ago, and they said that the King of France was asked 100 years BEFORE the French Revolution, so not in 1929. The French Revolution happened in 1789, so once again not 100 years ago, not even close.
You misread what I said, forlorn. I apologize, my statement wasn’t very clearly written. 

I was talking about the kings of France BEFORE the French Revolution. Our Lord asked a French king (not sure who) to consecrate France to His Sacred Heart. The kings refused and 100 years after the initial request, the Revolution started. 

I have heard people speculate that something similar will happen on account of Our Lady’s request being unfulfilled. 2029 will be the 100 year anniversary of Our Lady’s consecration request.  
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Emitte Lucem Tuam on April 27, 2019, 08:00:36 PM
This.
We will endure the Crisis until Our Lord deigns to step in and rectify it. We will drink the chalice down to the dregs; in this case, down to the very last day the Crisis will last.
We will suffer the exact number of days the Crisis is to last, and not a day more. God is in control.
In the meantime, we need to pray, study, hope, and trust in God.

There are people who were born, and have already died, since the Crisis began.

My parents were married in a Trad independent chapel. I was married in an SSPX chapel. My children are being baptized at yet another independent chapel. Life goes on!
We have to save our souls in the meantime. None of us know if we will outlive the Crisis.

Imagine if my parents had gone apocalyptic and chosen to wait out the end of the world single, thinking the end was super near. Good thing they didn't! Life goes on. God bless the Trad movement, which has saved so many souls and preserved the Faith of many.
Absolutely, Matthew.  Thank you and God Bless.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on April 27, 2019, 08:37:22 PM
We will have to live with things the way they are till Catholics realize there is a crisis and return to live the faith. It does not look to me like that will be any time soon, as Catholics think everything is great and that only a few "nuts" think there is a crisis in the Church. As far as "enduring" it is not so hard to do, as no one is being beheading or ripped apart by hooks, or shot through with arrows for not burning incense to the gods.
NOT YET!
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: SeanJohnson on April 27, 2019, 09:52:39 PM
We will live to see some in the SSPX celebrate the new Mass.

But we will not live to see the end of the crisis.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: poche on April 28, 2019, 12:00:55 AM
Yeah Pocher, that's right.

It's just been "eclipsed" or covered-up like Our Lady of LaSalette warned.
Sadly, most people who call themselves Catholics today, don't really understand what the Catholic Church is :facepalm:
I take Jesus at His Word.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Your Friend Colin on April 28, 2019, 12:06:54 AM
I take Jesus at His Word.
Indefectibility and impeccability are not synonymous, poche.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: donkath on April 28, 2019, 12:50:51 AM
We will have to live with things the way they are till Catholics realize there is a crisis and return to live the faith. It does not look to me like that will be any time soon, as Catholics think everything is great and that only a few "nuts" think there is a crisis in the Church. As far as "enduring" it is not so hard to do, as no one is being beheading or ripped apart by hooks, or shot through with arrows for not burning incense to the gods.
Beheading or ripped apart by hooks is too old fashioned for modern day techniques.

The human body: the next frontier for technology

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The brain could potentially be trained to operate technology planted in the body.

The Australian
12:00AM February 22, 2018 (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/the-human-body-the-next-frontier-for-technology/news-story/58fbfb2754e5066f5c762169849ac96d)


Get ready for the technology body invasion. Connected sensors, millimetre-sized robots and even a supplementary brain could enhance our lives from within our bodies. And we may not mind if we like the benefits. Then again, we may care if this internal technology makes us more vulnerable to hacking. Imagine being murdered from across the globe by an anonymous bot. An Inspector Morse, Holmes or a Vera might hit a brick wall trying to find the villain.

The truth is, humankind already is comfortable with some tech augmenting our bodies. We welcome Cochlear implants, pacemakers, replacement hips and knee joints when we need them, and the prospect of organs being 3-D printed or grown from stem cells is on the horizon. That will extend lives. At the cutting edge there are prosthetic limbs we can control with the brain.

But going further, the debate gets contentious. Biohacking was a discussion point at this week’s SingularityU conference in Sydney, organised by US-based start-up Singularity University.

Tech.biz, Wednesday 21st February 2018 Video (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/the-human-body-the-next-frontier-for-technology/news-story/58fbfb2754e5066f5c762169849ac96d)
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The tech think tank was founded in 2008 at the NASA Research Park in California and makes a business out of predicting the future. It holds summits worldwide and this week hosted its first in Australia. It is banking on its futurists, enthusiasts and academics making the right calls about rapid technological change for the benefit of policymakers, businesspeople and investors.

But not everyone at Singularity University is a conventional futurist. Take Tim Cannon, the chief information officer of Grindhouse Netware, a biotechnical start-up that builds gadgetry that can be implanted in your body. Such biohackers are called grinders.

Cannon is more than your typical cyborg in waiting. Sure, he has an RFID (radio-frequency identification) tag in his hand, which allows him to open security doors with his palm. He has subcutaneous “light tattoos” that highlight skin and tattoos on the surface.

He also experimented with embedding a sensor in his body that measures his internal temperature and is linked to his home climate control system. If his body feels hot, the house cools down.

Cannon says he is working with Utah State University on sensors that can be implanted in cattle to record and transmit their vital signs. The outcome is instant feedback on the health of a herd: an illness, a cow on heat, pregnancy or early detection of a disease affecting an entire herd.

Heart rate, oxygen saturation, pulse wave velocity and body temperature are some of the measurable metrics. Implants would be connected through a long-range wide area network, he says.

Cannon believes in 15 years humans will be embedded with enough biometric sensors to gain an accurate picture of their health — a human version of a diagnostic computer system in a car.

It’s the linking of these devices to the periphery of the central nervous system, and eventually to the nervous system, that is particularly contentious. He points to experiments where a culture of rat brain cells can react to sensor data and move a robot. It could be the basis for a second brain — an implanted human coprocessor.
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Instead of augmenting our existing brains, we could command a co-processor brain to perform more complex tasks. It could be linked to a battery of sensors in our bodies, and offer feedback.

The electrical pulses generated by the brain to control, say, the movement of your little finger can be mapped, so it also would be possible to map such functions on to commanding a co-processor brain.

Cannon has a long-term vision that journeys into theology. Across time, he sees the human brain connected to so much technology that most of our organic bodies become redundant. He says humans won’t travel to the stars in spaceships, they will be those spaceships.

Other researchers are focused on the here and now. Sarah Bergbreiter, associate professor of mechanical engineering at the University of Maryland, specialises in building centimetre-scale robots that use millimetre-scale power systems.
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Associate Professor Sarah Bergbreiter specialises in micro-robotics.
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Some of her tiny robots are smaller than ants. Their mission is to travel in the body to the sites of trauma and carry out procedures under a surgeon’s control.

“Don’t think of a creepy crawling insect inside of you, I think that’s a wrong image perhaps,” Bergbreiter says. “If you think of what you could fit at the end of a catheter in terms of sensing, actuation control and mechanisms, you can do much more complex surgical tasks with much less invasiveness. There’s a lot of medical procedures the people are looking at using these for, everything from eye surgery to GI (gastrointestinal) tract work.”

A mini submarine in your system? “Well, not quite Fantastic Voyage,” she replies, referring to Richard Fleischer’s 1966 sci-fi movie about a shrunken submarine inside a human body attempting to remove a blood clot. But it does sound like Fantastic Voyage come true.

“My long-term goal is to start looking at the medical applications of the work that we do,” Bergbreiter says. “The other thing we primarily use them for is with biologists to understand biomechanics, how things can run around as well as they do.”
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As a specialist in tiny robots, can she say whether it’s true that tiny flying mechanical insects are used for espionage — robots resembling a proverbial fly on the wall? She dismisses the idea. “Something that can fly around is still pretty far out because of the power challenges. It becomes a battery challenge,” she says.

A colleague was working on flying robots with a wing span of 3cm or so, she says. They fly, but the battery size and weight limits flight time to seconds or, at best, to minutes. However, drones about 5cm across are being used in the field for surveillance.

Invasive body tech may seem empowering to some and frightening to others. But there is a cost either way: the growing susceptibility of the human body to hacking, with digital viruses potentially as lethal as biological ones.

“Now for the very first time, with pacemakers and Cochlear implants and the like, the human body itself is subject to cyber attack,” says Marc Goodman, author of bestseller Future Crimes.

It seems you could be killed by a bot operating on the other side of the world, in what would be the perfect murder. “In my paper Who Does the Autopsy, the question that I posed is, when you have a 70 or 80-year-old man who died and had a pacemaker, how will you know if it’s natural causes or if the pacemaker was hacked?

“Because currently the court has no experience in doing computer forensics on all these devices, and the police have no experience in doing it,” he tells The Australian.

Goodman also warns about genetic privacy. He says that, a few years ago, to sequence someone’s genome cost $US3 billion. Now there are companies in the US that will do a version of your genetic sequencing for $US99 ($126).
Tune in weekly to Chloé James & Chris Griffith for the latest consumer technology news on TECH.biz, 6.30pm Wednesdays on Sky Business.
“If you read the terms of service it says they’ve got the right to sell your genetic data to advertisers. There will be quite a few privacy concerns around this. Prospective employers, insurers and criminals could glean personal information such as sɛҳuąƖ orientation, temperament, psychological challenges, and whether you have schizophrenia. Criminals could replicate your DNA and leave it at the scene of a crime.”

Whether these particular outcomes manifest remains to be seen. But the augmentation of the human body with technology is a prospect that Singularity University is grappling with, nonetheless.

The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/the-human-body-the-next-frontier-for-technology/news-story/58fbfb2754e5066f5c762169849ac96d)

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Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: donkath on May 22, 2019, 10:15:45 PM
Extract:

Building “God”


“And the Lord spoke all these words: I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them: I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.”

The magisterial words handed down to Moses take on ever greater import now that the age of artificial intelligence has arrived. What more graven thing is there, what more likeness of any thing in heaven can there be, than a superintelligent AI? We have little to no hope of even understanding a portion of such a thing, should it come into being.

Already, we have trouble understanding our narrow-domain AI. In 2017, Digital Journal reported: “An artificial intelligence system being developed at Facebook has created its own language. It developed a system of code words to make communication more efficient. Researchers shut the system down when they realized the AI was no longer using English.” Google’s translation AI seems to have done something similar, and it wasn’t shut down. In 2016, New Scientist reported on the breakthrough advance: “Google’s researchers think their system achieves this breakthrough by finding a common ground whereby sentences with the same meaning are represented in similar ways regardless of language — which they say is an example of an ‘interlingua.’” “In a sense, that means it has created a new common language, albeit one that’s specific to the task of translation and not readable or usable for humans.”

The fact that humans are already being locked out of understanding how AI is working was underscored in 2016 by Guruduth Banavar, IBM chief science officer for cognitive computing. “It’s not clear even from a technical perspective that every aspect of AI algorithms can be understood by humans,” he told Fast Company magazine.

If we are already having difficulty understanding the limited AI of the present, how can we hope to understand, much less control, the increasingly intelligent AI of the near future? And should we create machine intelligence that exceeds our own, as ours exceeds that of the cockroach?

Perhaps most importantly, is it already too late?


Read full article.... (https://www.thenewamerican.com/print-magazine/item/32202-the-age-of-artificial-intelligence-is-here?vsmaid=4694&vcid=2442)

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Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Clemens Maria on May 22, 2019, 10:38:38 PM
These people are living in a fantasy world.  The effect is never greater than the cause.  Computers are good at accomplishing tasks fast and efficiently and they are good at recalling previously stored information.  But they don’t have minds, they don’t have self awareness, they don’t have true intelligence and they don’t have souls.  Therefore they will never become anything more than a tool of true intelligent beings namely human persons.  Which means they can be used for both good and bad.  We will not become slaves of computers but we could very well become slaves of the people who control the computers.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: donkath on May 22, 2019, 11:22:08 PM
Is it possible though that people who consent to have AI implants into their brains loose the capacity to choose say between good and evil, let alone matters concerning the soul?
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Maillot Jaune on May 23, 2019, 12:48:55 AM
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2028 will be 70 years since the death of Pius XII.

So what? 2017 was 100 year anniversary of Fatima and nothing happened.

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Won't 2027 be 100 years since Our Lady asked for the consecration of Russia?

Muh Fatima !!
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: songbird on May 23, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
I read both books.  How long must we endure?  Read Chapter 12 of Daniel.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Pax Vobis on May 23, 2019, 04:56:17 PM

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We will not become slaves of computers but we could very well become slaves of the people who control the computers.
Exactly.  “A.I.” (and aliens, in my opinion) have been pushed for decades to brainwash the people to believe they are possible.  I read an article (that I can’t find) that proposed that “a.i.” will actually be software controlled by the demonic.  If people accept the lie that software can evolve and become so complex we don’t understand its decisions, what better way to hide demonic intelligence behind such decisions?  

Further, what better way to explain demonic possessed individuals or human-animal hybrids than to say they are “aliens”.   It’s no secret that top-secret govts have had all kinds tech for decades that we don’t even know exists.  I mean, the internet and the computer was invented in the 50s.  What other Tech is out there (ie project blue beam, weather weapons, chem trails, anti-gravity ships, lazer guns, etc) is real; it just hasn’t been unveiled to the masses yet.

If Our Lady allows more years to pass, before we must see chaos in order to repent, I think we’ll see some “signs and wonders” which will make sci-fi tv seem old school.  And it will all have a demonic influence, you can bet on that.  
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: King Wenceslas on May 23, 2019, 05:27:07 PM
Jesus made the following promise to the Pope and to the Catholic Church; "And the gates of the hell can never overpower it."

Matthew 16:18

Anne Catherine Emmerich: "The Church is the only one, the Roman Catholic! And if there were left upon earth but one Catholic, he would be the one, universal Church, the Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ against which the gates of Hell shall never prevail."

The numbers will be small, extremely small as we approach the end.

Francis is only the beginning of the end. Much much worse is coming.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: cassini on May 24, 2019, 06:05:46 AM
Anne Catherine Emmerich: "The Church is the only one, the Roman Catholic! And if there were left upon earth but one Catholic, he would be the one, universal Church, the Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ against which the gates of Hell shall never prevail."

The numbers will be small, extremely small as we approach the end.

Francis is only the beginning of the end. Much much worse is coming.

'For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.' (Matt: 18-20)
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: poche on May 24, 2019, 10:47:28 PM
Anne Catherine Emmerich: "The Church is the only one, the Roman Catholic! And if there were left upon earth but one Catholic, he would be the one, universal Church, the Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ against which the gates of Hell shall never prevail."

The numbers will be small, extremely small as we approach the end.

Francis is only the beginning of the end. Much much worse is coming.
St Catherine also said that if there were to be only one Catholic in the whole world, and the whole of Hell were to array itself against that one person, that one Catholic would prevail, because of the promise of Christ.  
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: Nishant Xavier on May 29, 2019, 08:43:15 AM
I agree that life must go on, and that's the most important principle for the laity. Not to think "oh the world's going end, nothing to do but wait for the chastisement". That's a totally wrong mentality. We must make the effort to discern and do God's Will for each of us, and be content to surrender to His Will whatever it is; and seek to become holier day by day, to reach the perfection God wills for us all.

But for Traditional Bishops and Priests, even more important, Tradition must go on. And it is absolutely fatal for Traditional Clergy to give in to the let's-just-wait-for-the-chastisement mentality. Meanwhile, Fr. Therasian sent an email just yesterday about the Society's work for about 88 orphans in India, to care for them, and raise them in the Faith, with love for Christ our King, and our holy Mother Church. The vocations of tomorrow don't grow on trees and they are not going to fall from heaven. They must be nourished and nurtured first in good Catholic Families, and second in orphanages and schools run by Traditional communities, and in many other ways as well. 

We see abundant good fruits from Summorum Pontificuм and Universae Ecclesiae and at least the partial liberation of the Tridentine Mass hardly 12 years ago, in response to that which His Excellency Bishop Fellay prudently requested from the Roman Authorities. 

"This past year, I have been doing a National Study on the TLM only parishes in the USA. Currently, there are around 70 of these but they are exploding in numbers with each passing year because the TLM priestly vocations are outpacing Novus Ordo priestly vocations by more than 7 to 1. My preliminary numbers are exceeding my initial expectations. There is a huge wave transforming the Catholic landscape and it is largely being ignored by the Catholic leadership.  I can now say what I suspected last year. The Novus Ordo is dying and it will be replaced by the Vetus Ordo sooner than anyone had foreseen, but certainly by 2050 the TLM will be the dominant liturgical practice once again." https://liturgyguy.com/2018/10/08/vocations-foundations/ (https://liturgyguy.com/2018/10/08/vocations-foundations/) So, here you have a mainstream Priest, Fr. Donald Kloster, projecting based on vocations the TLM is spurring from TLM only parishes, that the True Mass will become dominant by 2050. 

God may very well intervene even before that, and many prophesies ask us to pray that the days may be shortened, and the Triumph comes soon. But this is the work that must go on. There may be at least 10,000 Mass locations already in the world where faithful would be thrilled to have the Traditional Mass every week Sunday or even daily if possible. But who is interested in doing what is necessary for that? Archbishop Lefebvre always said an Army of Priests will be necessary to do all that is needed for Catholic Restoration. That is the real question we have to face and answer properly for ourselves. God will end the crisis, but we have to do our part, which He is expecting us to do daily, in prayer and sacrifice, and co-operation with His Will. Otherwise, victory will be delayed, and by our own fault.
Title: Re: How much longer must we endure the crisis?
Post by: 2Vermont on May 29, 2019, 05:34:53 PM
Anne Catherine Emmerich: "The Church is the only one, the Roman Catholic! And if there were left upon earth but one Catholic, he would be the one, universal Church, the Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ against which the gates of Hell shall never prevail."

The numbers will be small, extremely small as we approach the end.

Francis is only the beginning of the end. Much much worse is coming.
Francis is definitely not the beginning.