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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
« Reply #1605 on: Yesterday at 10:09:53 AM »
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  • He might want to start with Achille Lienart...

    ... or Tisserant, who allegedly engineered the "election" of Roncalli.

    Offline Cantarella

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1606 on: Yesterday at 10:56:21 AM »
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  • Legal semantics.  Technically not "abrogated" but certainly superseded and replaced ... as made clear by the "all previous ... not withstanding" language.




    Paul VI posing with six Protestant theologians who were part of the commission encharged with writing the New Mass. These Protestants were invited by Paul VI in order to make sure that nothing in the New Mass would shock their heresy.  It is not surprising that the resulting Novus Ordo Mass has the flavor of Protestantism, which means the taste of heresy.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A090rcPaulVIand%20Protsestants.htm



    What is there is left to say about the intention of these men? The evidence is overwhelming. That is precisely the habitual intention of dong harm, instead of good to the Church, that Des Lauries speaks of in his Cassisiacum Thesis.

    Actions speak more than words.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1607 on: Yesterday at 11:20:25 AM »
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  • Paul VI posing with six Protestant theologians who were part of the commission encharged with writing the New Mass. These Protestants were invited by Paul VI in order to make sure that nothing in the New Mass would shock their heresy.  It is not surprising that the resulting Novus Ordo Mass has the flavor of Protestantism, which means the taste of heresy.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A090rcPaulVIand%20Protsestants.htm



    What is there is left to say about the intention of these men? The evidence is overwhelming. That is precisely the habitual intention of dong harm, instead of good to the Church, that Des Lauries speaks of in his Cassisiacum Thesis.

    Actions speak more than words.

    And yet God has allowed it, presumably through His permissive will. How do you account for that, Cantarella? I've asked you that question before, but you gave a non-answer.

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1608 on: Yesterday at 12:31:51 PM »
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  • And yet God has allowed it, presumably through His permissive will. How do you account for that.....
    In the same way that God reprobates due to His consequent will (see St. Thomas)...

    In order to achieve an effect there must be a cause.

    God permits the Novus Ordo, the event (cause, deception) to make another event (the effect, loss of soul) to happen.

    This is where I agree 100% with Father Wathen, there is no salvation in the Novus Ordo because it isn't Catholic.



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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1609 on: Yesterday at 06:11:23 PM »
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  • Yup.  So, what, because these clowns (Catholic cardinals excepted) managed to get fancy titles, we're supposed to bow in awe of them?  Look into each one on this list and get back to me.  Many of them were open modernists, and some suspected to be Masons and/or Communist agents.
    No, because the Roman Church can't defect.
    I'd like to see some hard evidence.


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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1610 on: Yesterday at 06:47:44 PM »
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  • No, because the Roman Church can't defect.
    I'd like to see some hard evidence.
    Does hard evidence matter? Christ raised Lazarus from the dead, and they still didn't believe in Him.



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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1611 on: Today at 01:03:28 AM »
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  • And yet God has allowed it, presumably through His permissive will. How do you account for that, Cantarella? I've asked you that question before, but you gave a non-answer.

    How am I supposed to know this? "O the depth of the riches of the wisdom and of the knowledge of God! How incomprehensible are his judgments, and how unsearchable his ways! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? Or who hath been his counsellor?" (Romans 11:33-34).

    What we do know is that if God permits evil, is always for a greater good. Perhaps the crisis is a test from Heaven to separate the cockle from the wheat, distinguish the reprobate from the elect. St Paul tells us that "all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to purpose".


    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

     

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