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Offline Clemens Maria

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Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
« Reply #1155 on: January 17, 2018, 11:37:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 17, 2018, 08:38:24 AM
    Heck, there's very credible evidence that Roncalli was inducted into a Masonic lodge; he was always fraternizing with Communists.  Masonic newspapers around the world hailed the "election" of Roncalli.

    In several letters, including his first encyclical, Roncali referred to the Holy Trinity as a "Mysterious Force" ... which is a known Masonic term (look it up).

    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/anti-pope-john-xxiii/#.Wl9bpqinGUk
    https://novusordowatch.org/karl-rahner-vatican2-testimony-1964/


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    The Jan. 13, 1964 Karl Rahner Speech in Freiburg reveals:
    • French “Integralist” Bishops who “appeal to La Salette and Fatima” called John XXIII a “Precursor of the Antichrist” and
    • said Montini (later Paul VI) was “John XXIII’s Crown Prince”
    • An anonymous book at the council [probably Maurice Pinay’s The Plot against the Church (1962) –N.O.W.] warns of a Fifth Column of Jєωs and Freemasons that reaches all the way into the cardinalate
    https://novusordowatch.org/john-xxiii/

    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/cardinal-siri-elections/


    Yes, I would agree that there is an abundance of credible evidence that Roncalli was not Catholic.
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1156 on: January 17, 2018, 11:44:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 17, 2018, 08:38:24 AM
    Heck, there's very credible evidence that Roncalli was inducted into a Masonic lodge; he was always fraternizing with Communists.  Masonic newspapers around the world hailed the "election" of Roncalli.

    In several letters, including his first encyclical, Roncali referred to the Holy Trinity as a "Mysterious Force" ... which is a known Masonic term (look it up).

    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/anti-pope-john-xxiii/#.Wl9bpqinGUk

    Credible evidence, as cited from the Dimond Brothers at the most holy family monastery? That's hilarious! 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1157 on: January 17, 2018, 11:49:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 17, 2018, 11:44:34 AM
    Credible evidence, as cited from the Dimond Brothers at the most holy family monastery? That's hilarious!

    uhm, read the sources they cite; they're simply compiling the evidence.  You're of very bad will on this issue ... due to some emotional attachments you have to the Resistance/R&R.

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1158 on: January 17, 2018, 11:55:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 17, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
    uhm, read the sources they cite; they're simply compiling the evidence.  You're of very bad will on this issue ... due to some emotional attachments you have to the Resistance/R&R.

    Ha! Ha! I knew you would use your usual "emotional" argument on this one. You're so predictable, Ladislaus!

    I'm not going to read a so-called "source" from the sede freaks at the most holy family monastery - um - correction: I mean the most holy family trailer (they still live in a trailer, right?).

    Oh, and in case you didn't know - evidence is not proof. Non-Catholics use evidence to prove a point. Catholics use actual proof. There's a difference.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1159 on: January 17, 2018, 11:56:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Bellator Dei on January 17, 2018, 11:53:05 AM
    Absolutely...anyone can plainly see that the majority of their articles are the compiling of evidence.  AND they ALWAYS cite their sources...

    No matter what side you take, you have to give credit where credit is due.  

    Give credit to sede freaks at that most holy family trailer? I don't think so. 
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1160 on: January 17, 2018, 11:58:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Bellator Dei on January 17, 2018, 11:53:05 AM
    Absolutely...anyone can plainly see that the majority of their articles are the compiling of evidence.  AND they ALWAYS cite their sources...

    No matter what side you take, you have to give credit where credit is due.  
    Yeah, like them or not, you have to admit that their research is very thorough.
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1161 on: January 17, 2018, 11:59:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on January 17, 2018, 11:58:13 AM
    Yeah, like them or not, you have to admit that their research is very thorough.

    From a SEDE POV. They are extremely biased at the most holy family trailer. 
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1162 on: January 17, 2018, 12:01:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on January 17, 2018, 12:00:11 PM
    Ha! Ha! I knew you would use your usual "emotional" argument on this one. You're so predictable, Ladislaus!

    I'm not going to read a so-called "source" from the sede freaks at the most holy family monastery - um - correction: I mean the most holy family trailer (they still live in a trailer, right?).

    Oh, and in case you didn't know - evidence is not proof. Non-Catholics use evidence to prove a point. Catholics use actual proof. There's a difference.

    Someone with the reputation and mindset such as Meg hates MHFM makes me think them that much more credible. Thank you Meg, I will pray for your conversion from Dogmatic R&R Flatearthism to the Catholic Church.

    I don't hate them. Hatred is an attribute of sedes, so they (you) can't think in any other terms except hate.

    But they are freaks.
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1163 on: January 17, 2018, 12:07:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bellator Dei on January 17, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
    Why are they freaks, Meg?  

    They are an extreme aberration of Catholicism, and they make a mockery of our Catholic faith. 
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1164 on: January 17, 2018, 12:19:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: GJC on January 17, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
    Wouldn't be surprised to know you are one of these Trump protesters



    Could you be any more subjective with your comments????

    What does President Trump have to do with the subject at hand? 
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1165 on: January 17, 2018, 12:21:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bellator Dei on January 17, 2018, 12:15:54 PM
    That's a pretty general statement, Meg.

    Be more specific, please...really try to nail down some specific areas in which they are "freaks".

    You go ahead and work on that for a while and the rest of us will get back to actually contributing to the discussion.  

      

    When I have time, I'll try to nail down specifics. It's not much of a discussion when some of you sedes use the most holy family trailer Dimonds to back up your "evidence."
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1166 on: January 17, 2018, 12:27:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on January 17, 2018, 12:22:55 PM

    Yes, and also, how do they make a mockery of your Catholic Faith? What makes them an "extreme aberration"? Please be specific.

    "My" catholic faith? What do you mean by that?

    You sedes are basically anarchists. You want no authority over you. You want to decide for yourselves what Catholicism is.

    You make of mockery of Catholics who refuse to be anarchists. We will not throw the pope from the chair of peter, as you have. 
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1167 on: January 17, 2018, 12:32:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on January 17, 2018, 11:37:09 AM
    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/cardinal-siri-elections/

    Yes, I believe that Siri was elected and his resignation invalid for having been made under duress.  Then there was collusion on the subsequent installation of Roncalli ... which too would have invalidated his election.  But so long as Siri was alive (though the time of John Paul II), the subsequent elections would not have been valid, since the material designation still rightly belonged to Siri.
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1168 on: January 17, 2018, 12:33:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 17, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
    "My" catholic faith? What do you mean by that?

    You sedes are basically anarchists. You want no authority over you. You want to decide for yourselves what Catholicism is.

    You make of mockery of Catholics who refuse to be anarchists. We will not throw the pope from the chair of peter, as you have.

    :facepalm:
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    Re: How many sedes are logged on to the forum right now?
    « Reply #1169 on: January 17, 2018, 01:49:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on January 17, 2018, 01:06:29 PM
    Yes, that is the essence of the r&r position.

    Yes, I would think that you are against the Resistance position. And yet you post on a forum that supports the Resistance.
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29
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