Author Topic: How do I get People to Understand They Need to Work out Their Salvation? (Read 1312 times)

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2013, 09:46:12 PM »

From what I gather, Protestants believe that when Christ died on the Cross, he died for all sins and so protestants believe there is no need for confession and all they have to do is say, "I believe" and that is it. They don't understand why catholics continue to crucify Christ on our altars.

So, Christ died, shed blood, to open the gates of heaven, there is a difference between Salvation and Redemption. We have been redeemed, won back. Salvation is the power of the Precious Blood in all the sacraments. We sin and we need the Precious Blood.

Protestants do not understand this.

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2013, 11:56:06 PM »

Anyone who answers "no!" when you ask them if they would become Catholic if they knew it was the only Church that Christ founded is in dire danger of Hell.

The fact is that 95% or better of protestants are ignorant of general history and anything that happened after St. Paul in Church history.

What you need to do is live a penitential life openly and faithfully. Study or at least read thoroughly the writings of the Church Fathers. Get to know St. Augustine's writings well; the protestants who think they know early Church history love to misquote and prooftext with St. Augustine.

Don't try to prove the Faith or the lineage of the Church from history; instead, simply live your life of mortification and faith and take opportunities to explain the Faith as questions or comments arise. Place Scripture where it belongs; as the most important books in a vast spiritual library, indeed, by far more important than other books, but PART of the Church's rightful possession.

In short, make your life like a delicious meal that you make ready for those who are hungry. One day, they may ask you for the recipe.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Frances · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2013, 01:33:53 AM »

Quote from: Stephen Francis

The fact is that 95% or better of protestants are ignorant of general history and anything that happened after St. Paul in Church history.

How true! I was at a talk given by a well known educator who is Protestant, Dr. David Mackey. He made reference in one of his conferences, to "the first educators to reach India with the Gospel in the early 1800s"! Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to speak with him, else I'd have asked him about St. Thomas!!! He was probably just parroting what he'd learned from his Protestant professors. Granted, his doctorate is in educational theory, not Church history, but one doesn't need an advanced degree to know the error of his statement. When I raised the issue with several of my Protestant colleagues, they thought he meant to refer to modern times only. But it was obvious not one of my four colleagues knew that St. Thomas, or, the Apostle Thomas, as they'd call him, had ever been to India! All of them have degrees from "Christian" colleges.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2013, 09:10:48 AM »

The very best advice I can give is, NOT to ask them to become Catholic at all, but to ask them to say a little prayer each day that they will die united to the Church that Christ founded.

If they say, well I am already united to my Protestant belief, don't argue with them, just say, well okay then, just pray daily that you will be united to Christ's Church at the moment of your death and you will not fall away.

If they agree to pray this little pray, that will only take seconds to pray, God will hear their request and work a miracle of grace at His perfect timing.

bowler · « **Reply #9 on:** September 02, 2013, 12:04:44 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

The very best advice I can give is, NOT to ask them to become Catholic at all, but to ask them to say a little prayer each day that they will die united to the Church that Christ founded.

If they say, well I am already united to my Protestant belief, don't argue with them, just say, well okay then, just pray daily that you will be united to Christ's Church at the moment of your death and you will not fall away.

If they agree to pray this little pray, that will only take seconds to pray, God will hear their request and work a miracle of grace at His perfect timing.

Good advise, however, I'd tweek that to say to them, "Pray to God that He never allow you to be confounded", (and end up like the 5 virgins outside the wedding).

I'd steer away for mentioning "being united to the Church that God founded", since all baptized Catholics are "united", but few will be saved. It sounds too Novus Ordo. Like calling oneself pro-life instead of anti-abortionist.

I'm talking about Protestants that have no ears to hear.