I once suggested on this website that there might be a problem with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity among the traditional clergy, and since this might be construed as slander, I want to set the record straight --

I saw no evidence of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity among the priests at CMRI when I was there.  

I had drawn a connection between Schuckardt and Bishop Pivarunas, and from Bishop Pivarunas to Bishop Dolan, who he consecrated, and about whom there are whisperings and innuendos whose nature is hard to ignore ( though many here pretend that they either haven't heard them, or haven't said them ).  Some may have thought I was hinting that CMRI are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.  This is not the case.  I just suggested that some kind of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ infiltration might theoretically be in place, in the same way that we've seen in the Novus Ordo.

This could be superfluous to mention, like saying that "the traditional clergy might have concubines."  But I think the chances of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ infiltration are somewhat greater due to the proofs we already have.  There HAS been ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the sedevacantist world about which we know, like Francis Schuckardt.  This was a situation where a bunch of traditional Catholics willingly went along with a bona fide cult because it was all they had, where children were exposed to a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ by their families ( I don't think he was a pedophile, but I'll say this much -- he wasn't ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ alone ).  

I was trying in what I thought was a subtle way to put people on their guard.  I am not telling them to mistrust their priests or keep children away from them as if they were lepers, without any proof of wrongdoing.  That would be slander and defamation on my part.  But the Schuckardt situation set a very worrying precedent.  The bubble-world mentality of the sedes and of SSPX is very strong.  People get very attached to their little religious communities which they see as a safe haven from Novus Ordo.  They do not want to admit the possibility that the snake has crept into what they think is paradise.  Unfortunately, that possibility is always there.  

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the clergy is some kind of diabolical phenomenon that can't be ignored, and it already has crept into the traditional underground, even if it is only an isolated phenomenon among a few.  The problem is that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs tend to help other ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs get ahead, to "screen" each other, as we have seen in the Novus Ordo.  That is what worries me the most.  There is no reason to believe that they'd somehow change tactics as sedevacantists or as SSPX clergy.  It would be nice to hope that Schuckardt is just an anomaly and that the problem has been solved.  But another sede priest was recently arrested for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts.

That is all I will say on the subject.  It's very tricky to talk about because I want people to be aware of a very real possibility without being unfairly suspicious or making snap judgments.  But when you hear an SSPX rector boasting about making his students read Brideshead Revisited in seminary, it just sets off all kinds of alarm bells.  God wants us to be fair and just, not to be blind.   Keep your eyes open, but don't be paranoid or jump to conclusions.

This is mostly irrelevant as far as I'm personally concerned.  Since I now believe the entire clergy is heretical on EENS and NFP, at least in this country, I can focus on that without worrying about sɛҳuąƖ orientation.

There is hardly anything more sickening than to observe the obsession with controlling, creating a culture of competition as catty as the cheerleading squad ever was among the boys and young men who serve the Latin Mass in some unhappy places.

It starts at the top with priests who are proud and effeminate elitists, hand-picking their special boy.  This will be a clever little latent-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ bully who instinctively knows how to play up to the priests.  The type of priest who is so very fond of his reputation for Decorum and endless sermons will unconsciously need this type of boy to run things for him.  

Oh Meow! The emphasis on pride,gossip and control-freaks as opposed to true piety and humility.  It is so sickeningly effeminate, but as raoul pointed out there is this "bubble world" and many parents of large families cannot afford to travel.  Therefore they cannot (and nobody should, anyway) see how sissy the altar serving culture can get.  

The insulated, in-bred "bubble world" laypeople out of touch with large metropolitan gαy populations are easily fooled.  

Where are the priests who used to punch a kid in the head for making faggy comments to ther boys?  And the parents who will put up with anything as long as their boys get to serve, don't get me started.   :barf:

The sede priests ARE being watched.  Shhhh.... :furtive:

And the position against  against priestly celibacy isn't at all reasonable.  Millions of divorces for infidelity will show you that marraige doesn't cure adultery or any sins against the 6th Commandment.  If only.

Further, the Catholic priest cannot work faithfully for the salvation of souls when he is distracted by the needs of his family.  A man will place his family first.  Nepotism has already caused disaster upon disaster in the history of the Church.  

And the priests who support perverts or who are predators are the ones in Mortal Sin.  We sin by silence, look it up.

Apart from the Society of St. John, no proof is proffered at all. Just baseless innuendo. That (destroying reputations of persons or trad churches)  is mortal sin without proof.

Purposefully destroying someone's reputation is a a sin even with proof. There must be a good reason to disclose such things; if the end result is the destruction of a reputation, it is purely accidental.

Detraction is the unjust disclosure of another's hidden fault.

Purposefully destroying someone's reputation is a a sin even with proof. There must be a good reason to disclose such things; if the end result is the destruction of a reputation, it is purely accidental.

Detraction is the unjust disclosure of another's hidden fault.

In no case was anything I mentioned a hidden fault; it's all public knowledge (all but one incident that I have mentioned has gone into the legal system and has hit the news).  Nor did I mention any names.  And when I wrote about certain attachments that seminarians had (to lace surplices, etc.), I am referring in particular to seminarians who were later publicly implicated with such behaviors.

With that said, to expose someone who has certain proclivities would IMO be justified in order to prevent there being future victims.  Protection of possible future victims would certainly outweigh the person's right to a good name.  Not that this would be ends justifies the means; it would be protection of the innocent with the unintended secondary consequence of hurting the person's reputation.

The bubble-world mentality of the sedes and of SSPX is very strong.  People get very attached to their little religious communities which they see as a safe haven from Novus Ordo.  They do not want to admit the possibility that the snake has crept into what they think is paradise.  Unfortunately, that possibility is always there.

I've mentioned this before as well. There is a tendency amongst Traditionalists to let their guard down and as a result become lax on these things simply because they found a TLM to attend on Sunday which appears orthodox. It is not just homos either, there was a former Traditional Catholic priest in California who had an interest for young girls and was later defrocked by the Pope himself.

I've mentioned this before as well. There is a tendency amongst Traditionalists to let their guard down and as a result become lax on these things simply because they found a TLM to attend on Sunday which appears orthodox. It is not just homos either, there was a former Traditional Catholic priest in California who had an interest for young girls and was later defrocked by the Pope himself.

Yeah, I knew that priest also.

In fact, if you were a predator looking for a way to create cover for your operations, becoming a Traditional Catholic priest might be just the ticket.

Or taking advantage of a Traditional Catholic priest by working for him works just fine for some.  Some will just look the other way, they've got problems of their own.

These guys generally have really high IQs and they love a challenge.