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The problem lies in picking a side.

A person who believes that SSPX is correct has to stay with the SSPX.  Until they become sure of something else.  It works the same for all the Trad groups that the Church has not decided on (r&r, sedeprivationist, total sede).  We can't just willy nilly switch between sides because that is based on feeling, not logic.

10,000% disagree.  The only sides to choose are this -- Traditional (sspx/sede) vs New-Rome (novus ordo/indult).

This whole Trad sides thing is a novelty.  It didn't exist in the 70s, 80s and 90s.  It was born out of boomer clerics (sspx and sedes) who were still mad at each other from the split of "the nine" in the early 80s.  +Fellay took over the sspx and started attacking Sedes.  The "nine" became Sede leaders and then created 'una cuм' to attack the sspx.  It's all emotionalism and garbage theology.

We know from history that when there was ACTUALLY an 'una cuм' debate between 2 and 3 popes, there were saints on both sides.  So 'una cuм' is NOT a moral issue.  SO THERE'S NO REASON TO PICK A SIDE IN TRADITION.  

If you want to pick a "group" purely for social/geographic/priest preference reasons, fine.

But when the sspx attacks sedeism for being 'schismatic' and when the sedes attack the sspx for being 'in union with a heretic', THEY ARE BOTH WRONG.  AND THEY WILL BOTH BE GUILTY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO "CHOSE SIDES" AND BECAME HOME ALONERS AND MISSED MASS.

Each and every single mass that a 'Sede home aloner' misses because they don't go to the sspx mass, WILL BE PUT UPON THESE CLERICS.  All of these mortal sins.   
Each and every single mass that a sspx 'home aloner' misses because they don't go to the Sede mass, WILL BE PUT UPON THE SSPX CLERICS.  All of these mortal sins.

To miss mass is to not glorify God.  It is a heinous mortal sin.  It is a gross negligence of the PRIMARY duty of man, which is to worship God.  It is one of the main reasons, in all of history, that God punishes mankind.  Sins of the flesh can abound everywhere, and God is merciful.  But once the people stop Sunday worship, God sends his justice.

And we wonder why God won't answer our rosaries for the consecration of Russia.  When we have 2 Trad groups fighting it out, using bad logic, garbage theology and emotionalism to divide the people.  All in the name of trying to be "no 1" Trad group.  Truly they are doing the devil's work. 

You don't see this stuff going on in Europe (that I know of.  They are probably fighting about something else).  This is all americana stupidity.  Sports think.  I win, you lose.  Pathetic.  And REAL MORTAL SINS are being committed because of it.  Home aloneism (except due to location) is a pathway to hell.  For those clerics who push it and those laity that follow it.  You better wake up.

10,000% disagree.  The only sides to choose are this -- Traditional (sspx/sede) vs New-Rome (novus ordo/indult).

This whole Trad sides thing is a novelty.  It didn't exist in the 70s, 80s and 90s.  It was born out of boomer clerics (sspx and sedes) who were still mad at each other from the split of "the nine" in the early 80s.  +Fellay took over the sspx and started attacking Sedes.  The "nine" became Sede leaders and then created 'una cuм' to attack the sspx.  It's all emotionalism and garbage theology.

We know from history that when there was ACTUALLY an 'una cuм' debate between 2 and 3 popes, there were saints on both sides.  So 'una cuм' is NOT a moral issue.  SO THERE'S NO REASON TO PICK A SIDE IN TRADITION. 

If you want to pick a "group" purely for social/geographic/priest preference reasons, fine.

But when the sspx attacks sedeism for being 'schismatic' and when the sedes attack the sspx for being 'in union with a heretic', THEY ARE BOTH WRONG.  AND THEY WILL BOTH BE GUILTY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO "CHOSE SIDES" AND BECAME HOME ALONERS AND MISSED MASS.

Each and every single mass that a 'Sede home aloner' misses because they don't go to the sspx mass, WILL BE PUT UPON THESE CLERICS.  All of these mortal sins. 
Each and every single mass that a sspx 'home aloner' misses because they don't go to the Sede mass, WILL BE PUT UPON THE SSPX CLERICS.  All of these mortal sins.

To miss mass is to not glorify God.  It is a heinous mortal sin.  It is a gross negligence of the PRIMARY duty of man, which is to worship God.  It is one of the main reasons, in all of history, that God punishes mankind.  Sins of the flesh can abound everywhere, and God is merciful.  But once the people stop Sunday worship, God sends his justice.

And we wonder why God won't answer our rosaries for the consecration of Russia.  When we have 2 Trad groups fighting it out, using bad logic, garbage theology and emotionalism to divide the people.  All in the name of trying to be "no 1" Trad group.  Truly they are doing the devil's work. 

You don't see this stuff going on in Europe (that I know of.  They are probably fighting about something else).  This is all americana stupidity.  Sports think.  I win, you lose.  Pathetic.  And REAL MORTAL SINS are being committed because of it.  Home aloneism (except due to location) is a pathway to hell.  For those clerics who push it and those laity that follow it.  You better wake up.

The bold happens because we have turned healthy discussions into mud flinging fests.  Didn't theologians debate their differences all the time?  With each debate didn’t the ideas become better formed and understood? Wasn't the last step to have the Pope declare it to the Church?

AND as for Russia and the consecration.  It wasn't done when it was suppose to, so we don't really know what would happen next.

If the person believes it is sinful to go to a sede mass, then they can't go.  Lukewarmness is grown out of not taking a stance.  Don't you think God will show mercy to those in good Fairh, because we don't have a Pope to solve the issue?

Pax, I understand where you are coming from and I learned that human respect is also a sin.  I would rather just go along to get along, but I think God wants more from us.  That is why things are still a mess 60 years later.