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Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2025, 04:05:06 PM »
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  • That comment from his brother, "Quit showing off, you little jerk." ... while it may seem flippant, it does lend some insight into Bob's character.

    So, the fact that his older brother, who knows him very well, immediately felt that he was "showing off" ... that says something about his character, that they consider him a show-off.  If the man were a true "humble" man of the people as he's trying to be portrayed (like Jorge), then that expression "Quit showing off..." wouldn't really pop into your head.


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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #2 on: May 13, 2025, 04:20:25 PM »
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  • That comment from his brother, "Quit showing off, you little jerk." ... while it may seem flippant, it does lend some insight into Bob's character.

    So, the fact that his older brother, who knows him very well, immediately felt that he was "showing off" ... that says something about his character, that they consider him a show-off.  If the man were a true "humble" man of the people as he's trying to be portrayed (like Jorge), then that expression "Quit showing off..." wouldn't really pop into your head.

    If the video in question is real and exists, then your assessment is absolutely valid.

    So far that's 2 people that agree this is the logical conclusion. Except for an anonymous downthumber (which says nothing, and no one cares), think of all the hundreds and thousands of future readers (including guests) who will only get Ladislaus and my opinion.

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #3 on: May 13, 2025, 04:22:09 PM »
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  • I thought it was cute.  He was probably experiencing many emotions and just reacted to a childhood memory or incidence.
    Anyway, I wonder if the Vatican has a Secret Service department for the protection of the Pope's family.  In this day and age, especially in the US, I might be nervous if I were related to the Pope.  ::)
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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #4 on: May 13, 2025, 04:23:29 PM »
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  • "Many a truth is said in jest"

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #5 on: May 13, 2025, 04:24:17 PM »
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  • That comment from his brother, "Quit showing off, you little jerk." ... while it may seem flippant, it does lend some insight into Bob's character.

    So, the fact that his older brother, who knows him very well, immediately felt that he was "showing off" ... that says something about his character, that they consider him a show-off.  If the man were a true "humble" man of the people as he's trying to be portrayed (like Jorge), then that expression "Quit showing off..." wouldn't really pop into your head.
    To be fair, when was the last time the pope's brother spent a lot of time with him...as a teenager?  He entered the seminary fairly young.  Who isn't a show-off, as a teenager, especially around their siblings?

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #6 on: May 13, 2025, 04:36:40 PM »
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  • To be fair, when was the last time the pope's brother spent a lot of time with him...as a teenager?  He entered the seminary fairly young.  Who isn't a show-off, as a teenager, especially around their siblings?

    I'm pretty sure they ketp in contact.  One needn't have spent tons of time with him to pick up on whether or not he's basically the same guy or has changed.  I don't spend a TON of time with my own older brothers ... haven't in decades, but I still know their personalities and characters quite well.

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #7 on: May 13, 2025, 05:13:28 PM »
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  • That comment from his brother, "Quit showing off, you little jerk." ... while it may seem flippant, it does lend some insight into Bob's character.

    No it doesn't!  It could just as easily show the character of his older brother.  Maybe he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and has always felt inferior to his little brother, hence the "quit showing off"
    As for the "little jerk"... without knowing the intimacies of the family it could just as easily be a long standing term of endearment.
    With the world and the church going to hell in a hand basket, pick your battles and stop looking for the boogy man in every word uttered.


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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #8 on: May 14, 2025, 05:10:32 AM »
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  • That's just his older brother complimenting him in the sarcastic way that older brothers often do, no matter their age. 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #9 on: May 14, 2025, 05:38:47 AM »
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  • No it doesn't!  It could just as easily show the character of his older brother.  Maybe he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and has always felt inferior to his little brother, hence the "quit showing off"
    As for the "little jerk"... without knowing the intimacies of the family it could just as easily be a long standing term of endearment.
    With the world and the church going to hell in a hand basket, pick your battles and stop looking for the boogy man in every word uttered.

    Yes it does.  I grew up as a boy with three brothers.  You're imposing female thinking of jealousy and/or "feeling inferior".  Stop babbling about a matter you have no competency in and then pontificating about it. 

    I know how boys think and what the import of this comment is.  If you don't know a person's character, then switching to Spanish ... when you know the man speaks multiple languages and is more comfortable with Spanish than Italian, the expression about the "little jerk" is "showing off" doesn't simply pop into your head as your first gut reaction.  I thought nothing of it myself, thinking it natural.  If he really wanted to "show off", he would have done the Wojtyla and also used some English.  No, this speaks VOLUMES about how the brothers perceived him.

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #10 on: May 14, 2025, 05:55:58 AM »
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  • Yes it does.  I grew up as a boy with three brothers.  You're imposing female thinking of jealousy and/or "feeling inferior".  Stop babbling about a matter you have no competency in and then pontificating about it. 

    I know how boys think and what the import of this comment is.  If you don't know a person's character, then switching to Spanish ... when you know the man speaks multiple languages and is more comfortable with Spanish than Italian, the expression about the "little jerk" is "showing off" doesn't simply pop into your head as your first gut reaction.  I thought nothing of it myself, thinking it natural.  If he really wanted to "show off", he would have done the Wojtyla and also used some English.  No, this speaks VOLUMES about how the brothers perceived him.
    I grew up as the youngest with three older brothers, there is nothing he said that is worth psychoanalyzing to use or to make any determination about the pope's character from 5 or 6 words his older brother said during an interview.

    If he would have said his brother was showing off, or was a total jerk, or made that type of accusatory statement about his brother, then THAT would be speaking about his character, but as it is he was merely giving his brother a compliment the way that brothers often do. Read into it whatever you want but there's nothing more to it than that.

    He may be pope to everyone else, but to his brother, no doubt he is still just his little brother first, no doubt about it.       
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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #11 on: May 14, 2025, 06:18:10 AM »
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  • That's just his older brother complimenting him in the sarcastic way that older brothers often do, no matter their age.

    "Little jerk ..." is definitely a term of affection, but you need to put it in context.  His brothers knows very well that the guy is as fluent in Spanish as in English, having spent half his adult life there, and that he's less comfortable with Italian, so that when he puts the paper down with his written Italian comments and starts speaking off the cuff in the language he's most comfortable with, the last thing that pops in your head is that he's "showing off".  Now, you might actually be annoyed by his refusal to speak English ... trying to downplay being an American, the last thought that would ever occur to you would be that he's "showing off" with Spanish, unless there's something there, some history of his being a show-off or being arrogant.  Now, if he were doing the old Wojtyla where he probably spent 2 hours rehearsing saying "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Easter" in 50 different languages, yeah, you might think showing off.

    There's something there where the first expression that pops into his head is that he's "showing off" by using the Spanish.  If my brother were giving a speech in some international context and he spoke first in English, then said a few words in Hungarian, the last thing that I'd think was that he's "showing off".  I'd think that he's trying to communicate with a mixed group of people.  When Leo was speaking, the entire world was watching on camera, and a huge percentage of the world's population speaks Spanish, so it's not the least bit remarkable that he would try to say a few words in Spanish.  What I find more remarkable is that he avoided saying anything in English.  I certainly would have, knowing that it's the most widely spoken language in the world, and as a tip of the hat to my native country.

    So if any thought occurred to me about the languages, it would be the question of why he was avoiding English.

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #12 on: May 14, 2025, 07:27:19 AM »
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  • "Little jerk ..." is definitely a term of affection, but you need to put it in context.  His brothers knows very well that the guy is as fluent in Spanish as in English, having spent half his adult life there, and that he's less comfortable with Italian, so that when he puts the paper down with his written Italian comments and starts speaking off the cuff in the language he's most comfortable with, the last thing that pops in your head is that he's "showing off".  Now, you might actually be annoyed by his refusal to speak English ... trying to downplay being an American, the last thought that would ever occur to you would be that he's "showing off" with Spanish, unless there's something there, some history of his being a show-off or being arrogant.  Now, if he were doing the old Wojtyla where he probably spent 2 hours rehearsing saying "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Easter" in 50 different languages, yeah, you might think showing off.

    There's something there where the first expression that pops into his head is that he's "showing off" by using the Spanish.  If my brother were giving a speech in some international context and he spoke first in English, then said a few words in Hungarian, the last thing that I'd think was that he's "showing off".  I'd think that he's trying to communicate with a mixed group of people.  When Leo was speaking, the entire world was watching on camera, and a huge percentage of the world's population speaks Spanish, so it's not the least bit remarkable that he would try to say a few words in Spanish.  What I find more remarkable is that he avoided saying anything in English.  I certainly would have, knowing that it's the most widely spoken language in the world, and as a tip of the hat to my native country.

    So if any thought occurred to me about the languages, it would be the question of why he was avoiding English.
    The brother's comment about “showing off” could be an insecurity about his own failings in school (ie people who struggle at school often make fun of gifted children).  Maybe languages were easy to learn by the pope, while his brother struggled at basic English?  We really don’t know. 

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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #13 on: May 14, 2025, 10:32:19 AM »
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  • Yes it does.  I grew up as a boy with three brothers.  You're imposing female thinking of jealousy and/or "feeling inferior".  Stop babbling about a matter you have no competency in and then pontificating about it. 
    Childish temper tantrum.
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    Re: Hilarious —grab your popcorn and have a seat at the show
    « Reply #14 on: May 14, 2025, 07:17:24 PM »
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  • Yes it does.  I grew up as a boy with three brothers.  You're imposing female thinking of jealousy and/or "feeling inferior".  Stop babbling about a matter you have no competency in and then pontificating about it. 

    I know how boys think and what the import of this comment is.  If you don't know a person's character, then switching to Spanish ... when you know the man speaks multiple languages and is more comfortable with Spanish than Italian, the expression about the "little jerk" is "showing off" doesn't simply pop into your head as your first gut reaction.  I thought nothing of it myself, thinking it natural.  If he really wanted to "show off", he would have done the Wojtyla and also used some English.  No, this speaks VOLUMES about how the brothers perceived him.
    You know how you think.  Woman who have children see it all and talk about it all.  I think mothers have a bigger example to pull from then fathers and brothers.  
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"