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Offline Yeti

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Re: Here’s the next Pope
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2023, 06:17:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 15, 2023, 03:30:46 PM
    But there won’t be two wild-eyed modernists like Francis elected back to back.

    They need Muller/Ratzinger types to sell it to the skeptics.

    After Pius XII, you had Roncalli.

    After Paul VI, you had JPII the Great

    After BXVI, you had Francis.

    In other words, two steps forward, one step, eh, well, forward.  But alternating between the two, both always heading in the same direction.

    Muller is on deck.
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    I've been saying precisely this for years since Beer-Goggles' election. They'd definitely lose too many people, too quickly, if they had a "Pope Francis the Second", and I think they're smart enough not to do that.

    I'm putting down serious money the next guy will be another Ratzinger.
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #16 on: October 15, 2023, 07:27:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2023, 06:17:16 PM
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    I've been saying precisely this for years since Beer-Goggles' election. They'd definitely lose too many people, too quickly, if they had a "Pope Francis the Second", and I think they're smart enough not to do that.

    I'm putting down serious money the next guy will be another Ratzinger.
    I dont know.  I used to think this, but what "too many people" would leave?  It seems to me that most people who will leave have already left.

    I'm actually leaning towards another Francis if not worse.  Francis II.
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #17 on: October 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on October 15, 2023, 07:27:02 PM
    I dont know.  I used to think this, but what "too many people" would leave?  It seems to me that most people who will leave have already left.

    I'm actually leaning towards another Francis if not worse.  Francis II.
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    What I have in mind is the conservative Novus Ordo followers. Bergoglio has been shoving them into sedevacantism or traditionalism of one kind or another for over a decade. I think they don't want to lose too many of those people, so they'll appoint a "conservative" next time who will suck those morons back in.
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #18 on: October 15, 2023, 08:40:14 PM »
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    • The Hegelien dialectic.  They use this in politics, economics and religion to guide the people in the direction they desire.  I think the antichrist will come as an ultra-conservative  to save us from the "deep-state/deep-church". Imo
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #19 on: October 16, 2023, 06:55:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM
    .

    What I have in mind is the conservative Novus Ordo followers. Bergoglio has been shoving them into sedevacantism or traditionalism of one kind or another for over a decade. I think they don't want to lose too many of those people, so they'll appoint a "conservative" next time who will suck those morons back in.
    I still think that if they haven't left already, they aren't going to do so.  There isn't a huge amount of people who will leave with a Francis II.  Besides, I'm sure the Novus Ordo sect is more interested in adding to its numbers with those who want what it's selling.  Just think of all the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs who will come on board!  
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #20 on: October 16, 2023, 06:58:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on October 15, 2023, 07:27:02 PM
    I dont know.  I used to think this, but what "too many people" would leave?  It seems to me that most people who will leave have already left.

    I'm actually leaning towards another Francis if not worse.  Francis II.

    Neocon Conciliarists and neo-SSPX-style "Trads" wouldn't break with the Conciliar Church if they elected Beelzebub I.

    At the same time, unless they elect another St. Pius X, they know that SVs will never be corralled back into the Conciliar Church.

    I could, however, see them trying to finalize the "negotiations" (regularization) by using a Benedict XVII type ... with a very brief "reign", the intent of which would ONLY be to re-absorb the SSPX into the Conciliar "Borg" collective.

    This is the only way to negotiate with the Conciliar Church:


    To quote Gimli, "I guess that concludes negotiations."
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #21 on: October 16, 2023, 07:29:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 16, 2023, 06:58:51 AM
    Neocon Conciliarists and neo-SSPX-style "Trads" wouldn't break with the Conciliar Church if they elected Beelzebub I.

    At the same time, unless they elect another St. Pius X, they know that SVs will never be corralled back into the Conciliar Church.

    I could, however, see them trying to finalize the "negotiations" (regularization) by using a Benedict XVII type ... with a very brief "reign", the intent of which would ONLY be to re-absorb the SSPX into the Conciliar "Borg" collective.

    This is the only way to negotiate with the Conciliar Church:


    To quote Gimli, "I guess that concludes negotiations."
    Given the SSPX are already making concessions with the NO Sect under Francis, why would there need to be a "Benedict XVII type"?
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #22 on: October 16, 2023, 12:59:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 15, 2023, 06:13:29 PM
    Oh, come on.  neo-SSPX have not been supporters of +Vigano and they've slid far to the left of him.  I mean, when's the last time the SSPX leadership floated the notion that Bergoglio may not be the pope?

    Besides that, +Vigano is completely toxic and anathema to the Conciliar Church.

    I said: “neo-SSPX Resistance” because  +W called Vigano the continuation of the light of +ABL.
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    Re: Here’s the next Pope
    « Reply #23 on: October 16, 2023, 01:40:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on October 16, 2023, 12:59:04 PM
    I said: “neo-SSPX Resistance” because  +W called Vigano the continuation of the light of +ABL.
    Dear Incredulous,
    Do you think it possible that Bishop Williamson conditionally consecrated Fr. Vigano? 
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