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Re: Heiner/TR attacks CMRI
« Reply #175 on: February 01, 2022, 01:28:19 PM »
Right?! :facepalm:

I thought I'd add Bishop Pivarunas' statement from 2002 on the una cuм matter.  I can't find anything more recent. 

Although His Excellency allows for assistance there, he is certainly not encouraging it due to their theological contradictions and erroneous opinions:

The Religious Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (C.M.R.I.) holds that the Catholic faithful may petition the Sacraments from traditional Catholic priests who unfortunately offer their Masses "una cuм" (John Paul II).


Although C.M.R.I. does not accept John Paul II as a legitimate successor of St. Peter, it does not consider such traditional priests (who offer "una cuм" Masses) as schismatic. For, if such priests were schismatic in the canonical sense of the word, then they would be required, upon their recognition of the vacancy of the Apostolic See, to abjure their error and be received back into the Church.

Nevertheless, it has never been the practice of any traditional bishop or priest to require this abjuration of error of any priest who at one time mistakenly recognized John Paul II as a true pope.

This does not mean that C.M.R.I. in any way endorses the theological contradiction of those traditional priests who maintain that John Paul II is a true pope.

Lastly, we exhort the faithful to use great discretion when they approach such priests for the Sacraments. This is especially true in regard to their children, who may be confused by their erroneous opinions on the Papacy and on the infallibility of the Church.

Bp. Mark Pivarunas, C.M.R.I., Superior General
The Priests of C.M.R.I.
August 10, 2002
This.  Pretty much what Bishop Pivarunas said to m directly a few moths ago when my family could no longer deal with the inconsistencies of the SSPX.  We attend a CMRI mass 1.5 hours away every weekend as a result when we have a nice big SSPX chapel (St. Vincent de Paul  kcmo).  their Covid sellout made it much easier.    Note also:  Bishop Sanborn himself told me about the same time that CMRi was fine, their priests are sound.  

Re: Heiner/TR attacks CMRI
« Reply #176 on: February 01, 2022, 04:29:02 PM »
This.  Pretty much what Bishop Pivarunas said to m directly a few moths ago when my family could no longer deal with the inconsistencies of the SSPX.  We attend a CMRI mass 1.5 hours away every weekend as a result when we have a nice big SSPX chapel (St. Vincent de Paul  kcmo).  their Covid sellout made it much easier.    Note also:  Bishop Sanborn himself told me about the same time that CMRi was fine, their priests are sound. 
Fascinating.  So, why is Heiner so anti-CMRI all of a sudden?  It seems to me that Bishop Sanborn would be in agreement.  I think there is more to this than meets the eye.


Re: Heiner/TR attacks CMRI
« Reply #177 on: February 01, 2022, 05:31:51 PM »
This.  Pretty much what Bishop Pivarunas said to m directly a few moths ago when my family could no longer deal with the inconsistencies of the SSPX.  We attend a CMRI mass 1.5 hours away every weekend as a result when we have a nice big SSPX chapel (St. Vincent de Paul  kcmo).  their Covid sellout made it much easier.    Note also:  Bishop Sanborn himself told me about the same time that CMRi was fine, their priests are sound. 
Have you read up on the Thuc consecrations? I'd be careful with the CMRI.
https://benedictinos.blog/2020/10/15/the-ministry-and-validity-of-mons-thuc/?amp=1

Re: Heiner/TR attacks CMRI
« Reply #178 on: February 01, 2022, 05:47:20 PM »

Re: Heiner/TR attacks CMRI
« Reply #179 on: February 01, 2022, 06:25:05 PM »
There are 2 Thuc lines: Moises Carmona and Gerard des Lauriers.  Gerard des Lauriers consecrated in secret(?) and Moises Carmona consecrated openly with supplied jurisdiction. Epikea is mentioned. Bishop Pivarunas was consecrated under Carmona.

When I hear someone saying, oh, the Thuc line is not good or right, I question if they understand there are different Thuc lines.