Author Topic: Heiner/TR attacks CMRI (Read 42533 times)

epiphany · « **Reply #190 on:** May 11, 2022, 07:59:39 AM »

"The CMRI’s laxity on this issue is only more troubling when compounded by their permissiveness in the creation of annulment tribunals. The SSPX has engaged in this sham for years, but it has been known for some time that some of the CMRI’s priests engage in the judging of marriage cases. But this is something that falls directly under the legal functions of the Church and does not fall under epikeia. No one currently possesses the authority to issue judgments in these marriage cases and so the best our clergy can do is investigate to give someone some sense of probability, but no more than that.
In any case, the fact that even as late as 1968 there were only 338 annulments given for the entire United States that year should give helpful context in this regard.
In our unfortunate situation, there is an easy and effective way for these people to solve their marital dilemmas: abstinence and chastity. One should not risk a “re-marriage” if one’s “previous” marriage is doubtful or probably invalid."

I already had an issue with the SSPX over this.
If this is true then I am done with CMRI.

epiphany · « **Reply #191 on:** May 11, 2022, 08:18:14 AM »

Quote from: Jupiter on January 29, 2022, 12:54:36 PM

This is not an opinion. It is a matter of fact that heretics reign in the material structures of the Church and where there is heresy there is no holiness, regardless of appearances. The Arians were known for their penances, prayers, zeal, and good works but it availed them for naught since they had no faith on account of their one single heresy.

Also, yes, madame, a Catholic cannot be in communion with a heretic by divine law.

Jupiter sounds an awful lot like Moran...

epiphany · « **Reply #192 on:** May 11, 2022, 08:22:48 AM »

Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 29, 2022, 02:47:51 PM

Oh dear God, help me, please. How many people are claiming to be Pope? What is the name of this supposed pope that died about 33 years ago? Was he in Rome?

Are you part of the Schuckardt (sp?) crowd in Spokane, WA?

Are you part of the group in Kansas that has their own "Pope?" (The guy in his basement--I think he called or calls himself "Pope Michael?"

Are you part of the Old Catholic cult?

Are you in the Palmar De Troya crowd?

Are you part of the group in Quebec that has now branched off into the US, but they claim their own "Pope?"

Are you part of the sub-group of Little Pebble cult--that goes along with
something else?

I have had friends mixed-up with all of these groups, except the first one of the 33 years ago "Pope." That's a new one for me.
Sorry, but I cannot wrap my head around this Lad. I cannot.

I have done my best to understand where you are coming from, but I don't think there is much hope for that.

You are telling me that I need new Priests? I don't think so. I think they are the only ones keeping me from going off the deep end into leaving the Catholic Church and following the church of anyone that sets themselves up to be Pope just because they are convinced they are the ones with the "correct answer."

Edit in: This leaves me with SSPX and FSSP. There is no way I am wandering down the path of "there is no Pope." NOPE, not gonna do it. Nor am I going to get caught up in "independent" chapels so quickly, for this same reason.

God help us all.

Good. Don't go there.

epiphany · « **Reply #193 on:** May 11, 2022, 08:30:18 AM »

Quote from: songbird on January 29, 2022, 05:49:34 PM

Anne: as long as anyone who claims to be a follower of Christ, says the adulterated New Order not mass, they are known by their fruits as heretics, enemies of the Church that Christ founded. This is Matthew 24 "abomination desolation" then Christ refers to Daniel prophet, the continual sacrifice of the Mass will come to an end, or nearly.

No tribunal is necessary, know them by their outward fruits. All those who say this adulterated mass are excommunicated. They excommunicated themselves, removed themselves by their own free will.

I will not follow their ways, and I can not say that I am in communion with them. They are prayed for as enemies of Christ's Church.

I believe you are wrong here, songbird.
I am sure there are some NO priests who don't know better and are trying their best to say a respectful and holy mass.

"No tribunal is necessary" Tribunal for what?

epiphany · « **Reply #194 on:** May 11, 2022, 08:54:05 AM »

Quote from: augustineeens on February 01, 2022, 05:31:51 PM

Have you read up on the Thuc consecrations? I'd be careful with the CMRI.
https://benedictinos.blog/2020/10/15/the-ministry-and-validity-of-mons-thuc/?amp=1

I'd be careful with benedictinos.blog...

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