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Offline grumpy9

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Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
« on: July 13, 2023, 04:51:11 PM »
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  • I have been persecuted many times throughout my years as a Catholic. I was Catholic even when I wasn't... meaning I was "raised Catholic" (barely) but, even though I fell into a secular way of living when younger, always stayed faithful to Christ (my own way, not always His) out of instinct--until I didn't. But that's another story. Once I prayed the rosary, that was it: I wasn't falling away anymore! I think God Himself "forced" the rosary on me, but that's... LOL .. another story.

    So yeh, I am specifically wondering about persecution on other forums. I went to this one forum I liked and... it blew me away how hostile most of the people there were toward Catholics, whether NO or SSPX or Sede.. just didn't like Catholics.

    I say that is what is wrong w/ this country... it's too Protestant. I go further in saying that Catholicism (the real deal thereof) is the only thing that can save this nation. If only people realized that...

    It was certainly the only thing that saved me.

    :incense:

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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #1 on: July 13, 2023, 05:08:17 PM »
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  • Persecuted by family. We are shunned, ignored, no letters or communication.  My mother said, "You just think you know it all!"  After my dad died, my mother (a catholic) 5 years later married a divorced protestant, by a minister in my aunts house and my brother joined in with his fiancee. I have several sisters who followed that example.

    When we were  (i and my husband) still new order and left for Traditional Independent, our friends, many of the new order, never spoke with us again starting in 1996.  And my husbands only sibling, a brother, said "That is not for me, brother) That being catholic.

    That is a small persecution compared to the saints.


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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #2 on: July 13, 2023, 05:11:05 PM »
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  • Persecuted by family. We are shunned, ignored, no letters or communication.  My mother said, "You just think you know it all!"  After my dad died, my mother (a catholic) 5 years later married a divorced protestant, by a minister in my aunts house and my brother joined in with his fiancee. I have several sisters who followed that example.

    When we were  (i and my husband) still new order and left for Traditional Independent, our friends, many of the new order, never spoke with us again starting in 1996.  And my husbands only sibling, a brother, said "That is not for me, brother) That being catholic.

    That is a small persecution compared to the saints.
    Well, I would not call it small. I hear you, as I have had many serious issues w/ family
    They aren't even Christian, much less trad Catholic... although some of them act like they are truly Catholic.. at least in some ways. They are cafeterial Catholics... not to criticize or condemn, but just to let you know where I'm at in my perceptions...  

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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #3 on: July 13, 2023, 07:18:51 PM »
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  • Hey, man, I like the cafeteria thing though, I beez contrary a little to Malachi Martins. Cafeteria's okay, imho, like the Picadilly too. Picadilly be having some good fish and cod recipes up in there.

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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #4 on: July 13, 2023, 07:21:43 PM »
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    « Reply #5 on: July 13, 2023, 07:27:23 PM »
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  • You can't exactly stop the Irish though, just by nature. In a Novus Ordo parking lot afterr "mass", there was some trouble with the vehicles and the motions, and different drivers began to have a fight. It was staring up at a close distance with yellin' at each other from the doors, and some eager fellow asks, "is this a private fight or can anyone join in ..."?

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    « Reply #6 on: July 13, 2023, 07:53:52 PM »
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  • okay, who doesn't know it's not Raquetball Warehouse up in here? or "Coast to Coast AM" but the way to say cafeteria in Latin is tricliniaria, which could be triclini for short. Spaghetti.


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    « Reply #7 on: July 13, 2023, 08:04:14 PM »
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  • Holy cow, I hear the FOX NEWs wafting in the air now from another room. It's Sean Hannity in discussion about cocaine in the Wite House ... is that a thing? besides persecution?


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    « Reply #8 on: July 13, 2023, 08:42:13 PM »
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  • Forget Malachi Martin. I want to start an "Abolish the Feral Rezerve Bank" cafeteria. The people will be able to see what cafeteria can really do.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 13, 2023, 08:58:37 PM »
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  • ... is the only thing that can save this nation. If only people realized that...

    It was certainly the only thing that saved me.

    :incense:
    This "nation" is pretty big, almost as big as nature itself, so don't worry. I mean we don't fret 'bout the cliffs of Dover, so don't fret this. We may have to run through the jungle and Taco Bell but no worries. Tarzan and Jupiter Stator shall persevere.

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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #10 on: July 13, 2023, 09:01:09 PM »
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  • Take consolation in this, Grumpy

    Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven  [Matthew 5:10]

    Jesus has promised persecution
    Who shall not receive an hundred times as much, now in this time; houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions: and in the world to come life everlasting  [Mark 10:30]

    If you desire eternal life be grateful for and don’t worry about persecution. It’s the doorway to Heaven.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024


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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #11 on: July 13, 2023, 09:30:16 PM »
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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #12 on: July 13, 2023, 09:33:31 PM »
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  • so as a shortcut, I just banned him.


    That's definitely the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum.

    No offense, Donachie.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #13 on: July 13, 2023, 10:40:10 PM »
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  • What do you mean by “persecuted?”  I think of persecution like physically attacked, fired from job, house burned down, vehicle destroyed or sabotaged, threatened with deadly weapon, unrelenting harassment such as a gang of rowdy demonstrators in your yard for days and nights, slander as to have serious results, children threatened, unjustly punished, ostracized or bullied at school, if you’re male, the same done to your wife, your elderly parents mistreated—-guilt by association, CPS or police called and children taken away, unfounded arrest and imprisoned or order of protection granted, unfounded lawsuit, forced into bankruptcy…all the way to being tortured, imprisoned for long term, and cruelly murdered.  

    I would not include heckling, name-calling, socially excluded (unless it resulted in something serious like getting fired), unfriending on Facebook, obscene gestures, verbal insults to be persecution.  These are just the actions of immature or just mean people.  

    By my idea of persecution, no, I’ve never been persecuted by the novus ordo, or by anyone who goes to the novus ordo.  I can’t think of myself in a situation that would cause it.  I’m not a priest or religious whose bishop could cancel me, laicize me, close my convent rendering me homeless, etc.  The objectionable members of the novus ordo hierarchy don’t know I exist, and if they did, would consider me of no significance, certainly not worth persecuting to force their agenda.  I’ve been to a chapel that has one house in between it and a novus ordo church. To my knowledge, nothing happened. They stay on their side; we stay on ours.  I think the priest from the novus ordo attended Mass once, but Fr. B. did not accept the invitation to attend the n.o.  I’ve also been to a parish where the FSSP shared a church building with the novus ordo.  It was a very active parish with six Sunday Masses, so people attending FSSP would mingle with people exiting the novus ordo on the way in, and again, with people attending the Spanish Mass on the way out.  A good friend (RIP), used to go to the FSSP.  They had daily Latin Mass at 6:00 AM, and daily n.o. at 7:00 AM, again, no problem.  There was no problem until Traditionis Custodes when the bishop ordered the FSSP to get out, cancelling all Latin Masses as of immediately and giving them only two weeks to the priests to move out of their rented house and remove all their belongings. People who were known to attend FSSP exclusively were supposed to sign some sort of statement agreeing to the novus ordo’s legitimacy, to enrolling their children in n.o. catechism—The FSSP had some classes dedicated to preparing for the Sacraments in the old rite.—-And suddenly, there was a problem.  Those who wouldn’t comply were dismissed from various ministries like Ladies Rosary and Altar Society, Christ the King League, Knights of Columbus, a soup kitchen and food bank, the choir, altar boys, etc.  There was fighting among the people, loss of friendships, splits in families, several really large families thrown out, harassment of women and girls who came to the novus ordo wearing veils, people who knelt to receive Communion on the tongue.  The priests obliged at first, but someone told the bishop who ordered a stop to a reverent Communion.  He wanted to ban veils, but was threatened with legal action.  So much for Francis re-establishing unity!  The FSSP moved one town over and opened a chapel in a closed Protestant church that they’re renting, but slated to purchase.  I’ve not been there since 2019, having lost my job and retirement in the scamdemic and moving 620 miles away. I don’t know what the situation is like at present.

    I have been what I’d call “harassed” a few times at public events, like demonstrating outside a scandalous off-Broadway play, an abortion clinic, and a Rosary Rally in a park.  The people doing the harassment were probably NOT novus ordo, just the usual liberal characters.  We got called names, had people repeatedly drive past screaming and making obscene gestures.  People in a car threw McDonald’s food at us.  I was hit by a cup of Hi-C or whatever is their orange beverage.  An elderly woman in a wheelchair had a lesbian spit in her face.  I think that counts as persecution because the lesbian chose a person who was vulnerable and unable to defend herself.  Not surprising.  These kind of liberals are pathetic cowards who prey on the weak.  Why didn’t she spit in the face of a “grown-ass man?” There were quite a few present.   

    Losing my job, retirement, housing, and most of my possessions because I refused the v-word was persecution, but it wasn’t by the novus ordo!  It was the US government, state government, and city government. Being deprived of Mass for 2 1/2 years was persecution of the US government and that of another country.  



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    Re: Have you been persecuted by novus ordo and/or others?
    « Reply #14 on: July 13, 2023, 10:45:49 PM »
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  • Has Donachie ever made 3 posts that made sense? I mean, most members you agree or disagree with, or something in between. With Donachie, you can't even figure out what he's trying to say. He sounds like a poorly written bot, or a man high on serious drugs. At all times.

    I can't think of a single CathInfo member to compare him to. He is a waste of bandwidth. Everyone needs to have him on ignore -- so as a shortcut, I just banned him.

    I just skip over his posts.  They had nothing to do with the OP’s question.  They make as much sense as a speech by Kamala hαɾɾιs.  Maybe he’s her speech writer. 
    There must be some explanation.