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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Hans Küng has died
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2021, 08:43:13 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 06, 2021, 10:07:55 PM
I pray that he saw the light and converted before his death.

Here's another case where, if he ended up losing his soul, the Vatican had a huge role to play.  For his heresy, they gave him a mere slap on the wrist, declaring only that he could no longer be considered a "Catholic theologian."  So this left Kung complacent that he was still in good standing with the Church as a Catholic priest.  He should have been excommunicated ... for the good of his soul and that of others ... to send message to him that he was outside the Church and in grave danger of being lost for all eternity.  There's no guarantee that he would have responded to that message, but it most certainly should have been sent.

Similarly, the message needs to be sent to the Orthodox and the Protestants that unless they join the Catholic Church before the end of their lives, they are lost for eternity.

But no one believes anymore that there's no salvation outside the Church, and untold millions are being lost on account of this lack of faith.  Prots and Orthodox ... and heretics like Kung ... are basically told that they're fine and that they please God as they are.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Hans Küng has died
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2021, 09:05:21 AM »
St. John Chrysostom, Patriarch of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church:

I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think., I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.

Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)



They who are enlightened to walk in the way of perfection, and through lukewarmness wish to tread the ordinary paths, shall be abandoned. (Bl. Angela of Foligno)

They who are to be saved as Saints, and wish to be saved as imperfect souls, shall not be saved. (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

St. Teresa.... had she not risen from the state of lukewarmness in which she lived, she would in the end have lost the grace of God and been damned. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Hans Küng has died
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2021, 09:51:06 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 06, 2021, 10:07:55 PM
I pray that he saw the light and converted before his death.
Did Ratzinger try to convert him?
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Offline Kazimierz

Re: Hans Küng has died
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2021, 09:57:54 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 07, 2021, 08:43:13 AM
Here's another case where, if he ended up losing his soul, the Vatican had a huge role to play.  For his heresy, they gave him a mere slap on the wrist, declaring only that he could no longer be considered a "Catholic theologian."  So this left Kung complacent that he was still in good standing with the Church as a Catholic priest.  He should have been excommunicated ... for the good of his soul and that of others ... to send message to him that he was outside the Church and in grave danger of being lost for all eternity.  There's no guarantee that he would have responded to that message, but it most certainly should have been sent.

Similarly, the message needs to be sent to the Orthodox and the Protestants that unless they join the Catholic Church before the end of their lives, they are lost for eternity.

But no one believes anymore that there's no salvation outside the Church, and untold millions are being lost on account of this lack of faith.  Prots and Orthodox ... and heretics like Kung ... are basically told that they're fine and that they please God as they are.
Call it post insomnia morning drowsiness, but the last line in your post Ladislaus brought to mind a song by Billy Joel, which could almost be an anthem for protestants, Orthodox, conciliarists and Pachamama huggers....
Imagine the horror of God singing.....
“DONT GO CHANGING TO TRY TO PLEASE ME, I LOVE YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE!”
Yeeesh.
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Hans Küng has died
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 10:25:35 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 07, 2021, 08:43:13 AM
Here's another case where, if he ended up losing his soul, the Vatican had a huge role to play.  For his heresy, they gave him a mere slap on the wrist, declaring only that he could no longer be considered a "Catholic theologian."  So this left Kung complacent that he was still in good standing with the Church as a Catholic priest.  He should have been excommunicated ... for the good of his soul and that of others ... to send message to him that he was outside the Church and in grave danger of being lost for all eternity.  There's no guarantee that he would have responded to that message, but it most certainly should have been sent.

Similarly, the message needs to be sent to the Orthodox and the Protestants that unless they join the Catholic Church before the end of their lives, they are lost for eternity.

But no one believes anymore that there's no salvation outside the Church, and untold millions are being lost on account of this lack of faith.  Prots and Orthodox ... and heretics like Kung ... are basically told that they're fine and that they please God as they are.
Not wishing to carry so much as one drop of water for Father Kueng, but did he say, write, or do anything that would have risen to the level of excommunication?  I know he was "really out there" with some of his ideas, and to tell the truth, I'm not that familiar with them.  I don't seek truth from questionable sources.
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