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Offline Magdalene

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Good for you, Judas
« on: June 18, 2007, 05:00:47 PM »
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  • Mary wants to the conversion of Russia, but the Vatican doesn't.


    Vatican has no plans to convert Russia to Catholicism - cardinal Poupard

    Moscow, June 18, Interfax - The Vatican does not want to convert Russia to Catholicism, and relations with the Moscow Patriarchate are improving, President of the Pontifical Council for Culture Cardinal Paul Poupard told students of the Orthodox St. Tikhon Humanitarian University on Monday.

    Poupard said the Vatican never wanted to make Russia a Catholic country. The Holy See is praying for a Christian Russia and further preaching by Orthodox and Catholic disciples, he said.

    The cardinal admitted differences between Orthodox and Catholic clerics as members of one and the same family.

    The two churches want to speak about their belief, he said, adding that at the meeting he was wearing a cross he had received from Patriarch of Moscow and all Russia Alexy II.

    The atmosphere of inter-church relations has changed, Apostolic Nuncio to Russia Archbishop Antonio Mennini said. He said they could affirm Christian values together and be friends.

    The Russian Orthodox Church feels that it is respected by the Holy See, the archbishop said. The Vatican regards the Russian Orthodox Church as the national church and welcomes the opportunity to meet and learn about the Russian religious tradition, he said.



    Offline Trinity

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    Good for you, Judas
    « Reply #1 on: June 18, 2007, 05:35:57 PM »
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  • Oh, boy.  It's like the tea party in Wonderland.
    +RIP
    Please pray for the repose of her soul.


    Offline Tridentine MT

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    Good for you, Judas
    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2014, 09:08:31 AM »
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  • From a purely geopolitical perspective, this is a wise decision.

    From a Catholic point of view, considering that the Patriarchate in Rome is highly Modernist, it is better for Catholicism that the Orthodox Patriarchates retain their independence from Rome, until such time when Rome reverts back to Tradition.
    "Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment on the part of the faithful" Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani

    "Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop

    Offline PerEvangelicaDicta

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    Good for you, Judas
    « Reply #3 on: August 26, 2014, 11:38:43 AM »
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  • Quote from: Tridentine MT
    From a purely geopolitical perspective, this is a wise decision.

    From a Catholic point of view, considering that the Patriarchate in Rome is highly Modernist, it is better for Catholicism that the Orthodox Patriarchates retain their independence from Rome, until such time when Rome reverts back to Tradition.


    Amen.  
    However, you are too kind.... "highly modernist"   - more like "completely freemasonic".    

    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    Good for you, Judas
    « Reply #4 on: August 26, 2014, 01:10:51 PM »
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  • Good point.  

    If some Church wanted to return to Rome today, what would they return to?  

    The novus ordo sure gives the impression that everybody's truth is either the truth or close enough to be the truth.  In other words, indifferentism is the word for those in Rome.


    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    Good for you, Judas
    « Reply #5 on: August 26, 2014, 01:13:02 PM »
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  • Would Pope St Pius X think it's okay for the Orthodox to remain separate?  

    Would Pope Leo XIII tell Anglicans that instead of returning they should remain as they are because they would be more useful in that capacity?  

    The Conciliar Church teaches that all churches contain at least enough truth for salvation.  

    The Catholic Church taught no such thing!

    The question for us is how can the Conciliar Church be the Catholic Church?