I have heard something to the effect that the Papa Stronsay Monastery has in some way accepted Novus Order or compromised on this... 

I am considering entering a deceased into their Purgatorian Archconfraternity Perpetual Membership.  If I do this, will any Masses said for the dead be ones in Novus Order rite or will they be Latin Masses of at least 1962?

Thank you for any light that can be shed on this.  

Steve

It's an consiliar Diocesan indult mass. 


Traditionalist group granted formal status within the Church after a four-year wait

Mark Greaves
August 15, 2012 at 3:57 pm

A traditionalist group based on an island in Scotland has been formally established as an institute within the Catholic Church.
The Congregation of the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer, also known as the Transalpine Redemptorists, was erected today, on the feast of the Assumption, as a Clerical Institute of Diocesan Right.
The community, which has about 15 members, has been in limbo since 2008 when it announced that it wished to enter into full communion with Rome.
The group’s decision was a response to Pope Benedict XVI’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificuм, which allowed priests to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass freely.
Previously, the community had been a part of the worldwide Society of St Pius X (SSPX), the estranged traditionalist group currently in dialogue with Rome.
Next Wednesday evening, August 22, the community are to make a public profession of vows at their home on Papa Stronsay, a tiny, windswept island in Orkney, off the north-east of Scotland. The profession will be celebrated by Bishop Hugh Gilbert OSB of Aberdeen, who, as their diocesan bishop, granted them canonical recognition.
Bishop Gilbert was ordained as Bishop of Aberdeen exactly a year ago, taking over from Bishop Peter Moran, who had retired.

Very helpful - thank you!

I visited this group with a friend in 2000 at their religious house near the Cliffs of Dover, England.  We stayed two days and the brothers and priests were very friendly to us.  At the time I considered a Redemptorist vocation.  When I came back home I received a letter from the assistant director informing me, "Mr. Shepherd, since you do not accept Baptism of Desire, we cannot consider you for the Redemptorist vocation."  I am paraphrasing, but this is the gist of it. 

It has been my experience that nearly all who attack Fr. Feeney and the dogma, "Outside the Church there is no salvation" end up liberalized in some way or other.  Over the last twenty years I have not really kept up with the Traditional Redemptorist scuttle butt, but I did hear that they had caved to the NO revolution.  It is just another sign of the Great Apostasy. 

Yep, with an attitude like that, it's shocking that they went Novus Ordo.

Like Karl Rahner, I find it stunning how the vast majority of Trad clergy basically embrace the same errors they're pretending to oppose.  While it is possible, theoretically, hold a position on Baptism of Desire that doesn't undermine Catholic ecclesiology, the vast majority of Trad clergy hold that non-Catholics can be saved, and I can count on one hand the number of those who believe in a limited BoD that does not undermine EENS dogma.  As a consequence, they hold the same ecclesiology that they denounce as heretical at Vatican II.

If you were to tell these Trad clergy that you believed that heretics and infidels cannot be saved without first converting to the Catholic faith (even if you accepted BoD), the majority of them would label you a Feeneyite "heretic".  This has been the devil's greatest coup, to get people to believe that those who don't believe that EENS means the opposite of EENS are the heretics.  If you don't believe, contrary almost verbatim to the Church's dogmatic EENS definitions, that schismatics, heretics, infidels, etc. CAN be saved, that means you deny (the REAL meaning of) EENS dogma.  It's amazing how the "theologians" have come to interpret EENS as meaning the exact opposite of what it actually says.

And I remember reading that Dr. Rock (from the Boston, MA, area), the Catholic who invented the birth control pill, pulled his children out of Catholic grade school because the nuns were teaching Extra Ecclesiam.  Both his children met tragic deaths.  The son, against his father's advice, went to a party and died in a head-on collision. 

Most people do not want to have to tell their Protestant neighbors, "You need to convert if you want to be saved."  I have said it before, but when I was in the SSPX seminary 94'-97' several priests commented, "Don't preach that the New Mass is a mortal sin, how are we going to convert people over from the Novus Ordo?"  The same principle in involved.  

And I remember reading that Dr. Rock (from the Boston, MA, area), the Catholic who invented the birth control pill, pulled his children out of Catholic grade school because the nuns were teaching Extra Ecclesiam.  Both his children met tragic deaths.  The son, against his father's advice, went to a party and died in a head-on collision.

Most people do not want to have to tell their Protestant neighbors, "You need to convert if you want to be saved."  I have said it before, but when I was in the SSPX seminary 94'-97' several priests commented, "Don't preach that the New Mass is a mortal sin, how are we going to convert people over from the Novus Ordo?"  The same principle in involved. 

Some family members recently went to a school graduation mass in the novus ordo. One being a traditional Catholic. The priest said in some cases it is fine to attend but to stay in the back and pray the Rosary. I'm not sure how to convince them it was a mortal sin as it would contradict the advice of the priest and even how would they confess it if the priest doesn't think it can be a mortal sin in some cases?

You're missing the distinction between active and passive attendance.  By saying you should stay in the back and pray the Rosary, he was saying that passive attendance is OK.  Basically, you're there for the graduation, not the Mass, and are not actively participating at the Mass.  It's the same condition under which you might attend the funeral of a Prot where Prot services are conducted.  You're there to pay respects and to offer condolences, not to engage in Prot worship.

Alright, I can rest more easy now. I myself will never willing go to a NO ever again but I can't force others not to go, certainly it is difficult when family relationships which are already strained are on the line.