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Offline soulguard

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Going to Society ST Piux 10th mass for first time question
« on: December 05, 2013, 07:55:49 AM »
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  • I plan to go to an SSPX chapel for the first time this coming sunday and need to know whether I need to confess my previous history of going to novus ordo masses as a sin. Ought I?

    Also should I receive communion? And is there anything else I should know before I go?


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    « Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 08:35:10 AM »
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  • I have no answer in regards to your question about confessing your previous attendance at a NO mass.
    As far as receiving the Eucharist, if you don't have any uncofessed mortal sins then you should receive.
    You should dress appropriately. I don't know if your a man or woman. Women should cover their heads.
    When I first went I had a million questions and was nervous. Once I was there I realized my worries were unwarranted. Ifelt like I belonged. People are people wherever you go. Some are nice some are rude.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 05, 2013, 12:32:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: soulguard
    I plan to go to an SSPX chapel for the first time this coming sunday and need to know whether I need to confess my previous history of going to novus ordo masses as a sin. Ought I?


    The Church teaches that when we are not sure, always confess it in case it is a sin - in this case, yes, confess it. Should be the only time you ever confess this one for the rest of your life.


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    Also should I receive communion? And is there anything else I should know before I go?


    Of course receive Communion. If you're worried about getting the 3rd degree in order to receive Communion, forget it, that's not going to happen.

    Sit somewhere around 1/2 way between the front and back of the chapel so you can take your que from the folks in front of you when to kneel, sit and stand. Sitting in the back is often where parents with babies and little kids are -  which might be a distraction for you.

    Dress appropriately - no jeans, tee's or tennis shoes.

    You didn't mention if you were going to Low Mass (usually the early Mass) or High Mass (usually the later Mass) but for Low Mass, the congregation does not respond to the priest - the altar boys respond for us. . . . . but I think some places the people can sometimes be heard responding - no great big fat hairy deal - either way, just remain silent during Mass - after Mass you can respond with the people during the Leonine prayers.





     










     

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    « Reply #3 on: December 05, 2013, 01:33:20 PM »
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  • What is the name of the sin of going to a novus ordo mass?

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    « Reply #4 on: December 05, 2013, 01:47:38 PM »
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    What is the name of the sin of going to a novus ordo mass?


    I don't think that is a sin....waiting for correction if it is.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 02:05:19 PM »
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  • Well, if you regard the NO as a non-Catholic rite, then it would be the same as going to a Methodist church.  I, obviously, don't buy this, but that seems like a logical conclusion for someone who does.  

    Conversely, if you do think it is a Catholic rite, even an imperfect one, It is hard for me to see how you could regard it as a sin.

    Soulguard, aren't you a sede?  If so, you might find an SSPX parish more concerned about that than the fact that you have attended the NO.  
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    « Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 02:16:01 PM »
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    Well, if you regard the NO as a non-Catholic rite, then it would be the same as going to a Methodist church.  I, obviously, don't buy this, but that seems like a logical conclusion for someone who does.  

    Conversely, if you do think it is a Catholic rite, even an imperfect one, It is hard for me to see how you could regard it as a sin.

    Soulguard, aren't you a sede?  If so, you might find an SSPX parish more concerned about that than the fact that you have attended the NO.  


    I just keep my opinions about the papal claimant to myself, except on this forum where we discuss him. Cant wait to go TBH.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 02:17:33 PM »
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  • When you attended the NO Mass did you intend to do a wrong thing?
    If the answer is No, then it is not a sin.

    If you come to the understanding that NO Mass is a protestant service and you still go, then it will be a sin.

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    « Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 02:29:39 PM »
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    When you attended the NO Mass did you intend to do a wrong thing?
    If the answer is No, then it is not a sin.

    If you come to the understanding that NO Mass is a protestant service and you still go, then it will be a sin.



    Well I hold that it is a valid mass, but is a sacrilege rite.
    But just in case I confessed some months ago membership of a heretical cult, going to non Catholic services, and Idolatry just to be sure.
    I am clean.
     :cool:

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    « Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 03:23:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: soulguard
    Quote from: Nadir
    When you attended the NO Mass did you intend to do a wrong thing?
    If the answer is No, then it is not a sin.

    If you come to the understanding that NO Mass is a protestant service and you still go, then it will be a sin.



    Well I hold that it is a valid mass, but is a sacrilege rite.
    But just in case I confessed some months ago membership of a heretical cult, going to non Catholic services, and Idolatry just to be sure.
    I am clean.
     :cool:


    Rather than make a mistake and worry, why don't you just tell the Priest in confession that you've been attending the Novus Ordor and you're unsure if it's a sin and let him decide and instruct you further.  Get it from an authority not a forum.
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    « Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 04:02:12 PM »
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    What is the name of the sin of going to a novus ordo mass?


    Breaking the first commandment.

    ETA I agree with what Miseremini posted.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    « Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 04:03:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Well, if you regard the NO as a non-Catholic rite, then it would be the same as going to a Methodist church.  I, obviously, don't buy this, but that seems like a logical conclusion for someone who does.  

    Conversely, if you do think it is a Catholic rite, even an imperfect one, It is hard for me to see how you could regard it as a sin.

    Soulguard, aren't you a sede?  If so, you might find an SSPX parish more concerned about that than the fact that you have attended the NO.  


    That last part really isn't true. Most SSPX chapels include a good number of sedevacantists.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 04:38:43 PM »
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  • The first time I went to confession at SSPX, I told the priest that this was my first time at SSPX.  He asked me a lot of questions, which I answered.  He asked me if I knew going to NO was wrong.  I said, not at first, but when I realized something was wrong, I quit going.  He explained to me the whole thing about the problems with Novus Ordo and gave me some suggestions for things to read.  I wasn't nervous after that.  



    So my advice is just to be honest and straightforward.  Being a NO Catholic is like living in a fog.  You don't really know that you can't see well until you get a little glimpse of bright sunlight.  Then you can't stop trying to figure out where it came from and how to get it back.  Once the fog clears, it all starts to make sense.  


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    « Reply #13 on: December 16, 2013, 10:21:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mabel
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    Well, if you regard the NO as a non-Catholic rite, then it would be the same as going to a Methodist church.  I, obviously, don't buy this, but that seems like a logical conclusion for someone who does.  

    Conversely, if you do think it is a Catholic rite, even an imperfect one, It is hard for me to see how you could regard it as a sin.

    Soulguard, aren't you a sede?  If so, you might find an SSPX parish more concerned about that than the fact that you have attended the NO.  


    That last part really isn't true. Most SSPX chapels include a good number of sedevacantists.


    Really?  That surprises me.  I thought the SSPX was pretty much death on sedevacantism.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #14 on: December 16, 2013, 10:28:20 PM »
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    Well, if you regard the NO as a non-Catholic rite, then it would be the same as going to a Methodist church.  I, obviously, don't buy this, but that seems like a logical conclusion for someone who does.  

    Conversely, if you do think it is a Catholic rite, even an imperfect one, It is hard for me to see how you could regard it as a sin.

    Soulguard, aren't you a sede?  If so, you might find an SSPX parish more concerned about that than the fact that you have attended the NO.  


    That last part really isn't true. Most SSPX chapels include a good number of sedevacantists.


    Really?  That surprises me.  I thought the SSPX was pretty much death on sedevacantism.

    You are probably used to seeing it from the other side. When I went to SSPX it was 50/50, just no one went in with guns blazing. No reason, we're all Catholic, our fight isn't with each other.