I can't give you a difinitive answer to your question.

I can tell you that I avoid such organization because I have serious doubts of the validity of the Novus Ordo orders and priests of these organizations are always (or, at least, almost always) ordained by bishops who were consecrated in the new rites which, if that rite is not valid, would make orders conferred by them invalid even if they use the traditional rite to ordain the priests.

Furthermore, priests who are in "full communion" (whatever that means) with Modernist Rome are not priests who are trustworthy.

My two cents:

The schismatic and heretic "Orthodox" have valid sacraments. Still it is a grave sin to attend their mass.

Now, we wait for a Pope to condemn the Second Vatican Council, the conciliar Magisterium, the conciliar Popes and so forth. Why would we meanwhile attend the mass of those we expect to be condemned?

If we don't expect them to be condemned, then we should obey them, and attend even the Novus Ordo mass.

Here's a sound word from a sound Roman-Catholic bishop:


Eleison Comments 263 (28 July 2012): Conciliar Infection

May Catholics who wish to keep the Faith attend a Tridentine Mass celebrated by a priest who is part of the Conciliar Church, for instance by his belonging to the Institute of Christ the King or to the Fraternity of St Peter? The answer has to be that, as a rule, a Catholic may not attend such a Mass, even if it is a Tridentine Mass, and even if it is worthily celebrated. What can be the justification for such a seemingly strict rule?

The basic reason is that the Catholic Faith is more important than the Mass. For if through no fault of my own even for a long time I cannot attend Mass but I keep the Faith, then I can still save my soul, whereas if I lose the Faith but for whatever reason go on attending Mass, I cannot save my soul (“Without faith it is impossible to please God” – Heb. XI, 6). Thus I attend Mass in order to live my Faith, and, belief going with worship, I attend the true Mass in order to keep the true Faith. I do not keep the Faith in order to attend Mass.

It follows that if the celebration of a Tridentine Mass is surrounded by circuмstances that threaten to undermine my faith, then depending on the gravity of the threat, I may not attend such a Mass. That is why Masses celebrated by schismatic Orthodox priests may be valid, but the Church in her right mind used to forbid Catholics to attend on pain of grave sin, because, belief and worship going together, the non-Catholic worship threatened the Catholics’ faith. Now Orthodoxy has in the course of centuries caused huge harm to the Catholic Church, but can anything compare with the devastation wrought upon that Church within mere tens of years by Conciliarism? If then Catholics were forbidden to attend Mass in Orthodox circuмstances, would not the same Church in her right mind forbid to attend a Tridentine Mass celebrated in Conciliar circuмstances?

Then what is meant by Conciliar circuмstances? The answer must be, any circuмstances which, over a shorter or longer period of time, are going to make me think that the Second Vatican Council was not an utter disaster for the Church. Such a circuмstance might be a charming and believing priest who has no problem with celebrating either the new or the old Mass, and who preaches and acts as though the Council presents no serious problem. Conciliarism is so dangerous because it can so be made to seem Catholic that I can lose the Faith without – or almost without – realizing it.

Of course common sense will take into account a variety of special circuмstances. For instance a good priest trapped for now within the Conciliar church may need encouragement to start on his way out of it by my attending his first celebrations of the true Mass. But the general rule must remain that I can have nothing to do with even the true Mass being celebrated in a Conciliar context. For confirmation, notice how Rome began by allowing the Institute of the Good Shepherd to celebrate exclusively the true Mass, because Rome knew that once the Institute had swallowed the official hook, eventually Rome could be sure of pulling the Institute into their Conciliar net. Sure enough. It took only five years.

That is the danger of any practical agreement without a doctrinal agreement between Rome and the Society of St Pius X. So long as Rome believes in its Conciliar doctrine, it is bound to use any such agreement to pull the SSPX in the direction of the Council, and the context of every SSPX Mass would become Conciliar, if not rapidly, at least in the long run. Forewarned is forearmed.

Kyrie eleison.

Bishop Richard Williamson

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

You can always hear Mass at the ICKSP or FSSP.

I don't think, I should.


The opinion of the SSPX, why a Catholic ought not to attend their [FSSP] Masses can be found here on sspx.org.

Their conclusion is:

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This being so, attending their Mass is:

 - accepting the compromise on which they are based,
 - accepting the direction taken by the Conciliar Church
   and the consequent destruction of the Catholic Faith and practices, and
 - accepting, in particular, the lawfulness and doctrinal soundness
    of the Novus Ordo Missae and Vatican II.

That is why a Catholic ought not to attend their Masses.

Plus people do not even consider that they go in and genuflect before the bread in the tabernacle.  That is worshipping bread.  It breaks the first commandment.  

You can always hear Mass at the ICKSP or FSSP.  

There's no requirement for Holy Communion every time you step in a Catholic Church.  

I'm sorry Capt, but this is a non sequitur.  Your reply is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

I have to ask for what reason should one abstain from Holy Communion unless one is not personally disposed to receive (i.e., serious sin or have not fasted)?  This is not relevant to the question of attending Mass.  Further, if the reason for abstaining is because of doubts about the validity of that Communion, then would it not, in itself, be a serious sin to hear that Mass?

If all you want to do is hear a Mass, you could read the Missal yourself...but you still would not have a Mass (unless you are a priest).

While it is true that Holy Communion is not required, it is certainly not true that simply hearing the words of Mass gives a soul any graces if that Mass is of doubtful validity.

Hello
Can I ask for your opinion
 
Is it OK to go a Latin mass that is said by a priest from the Institute of Christ the King or the The Fraternity of St Peter?
why why not?
Thanks

All excellent replies, simply stay away - do not go.
This is particularly sound advice for those who need to ask this question since, no disrespect to you intended, it shows they do not understand the ferocity of the crisis within the Church.

We must separate ourselves from the NO at all costs, no matter what. We cannot be numbered among those who seek to destroy the Church - even and especially when they employ the Holy Sacrifice as one of their means to further their efforts toward Her destruction.

Prior to V2, Holy Mother condemned our participation at the Mass in non-Catholic buildings (whether masquerading as Catholic buildings or not), celebrated by doubtful priests while being a member of a congregation who proves their indifference to this condemnation by simply being there.

Having said all that, if you do in fact go to one of the Diocesan TLMs, first, you are obligated to donate nothing.
Second, we are obligated to find out at least when the priest was ordained, and if he is ordination could be deemed doubtful then we are obligated to stay away - - - -  if there is a good possibility that he was ordained by a NO bishop that you know - or the bishop is known publicly to say and do explicitly heretical things, you are justified in  deeming the ordination doubtful and are obligated not to participate.

   

 

The liberal hierarchy of Rome fears the sspx.  They want to destroy it because it is holy and true Faith.