Author Topic: God the Father and His Son Reveal Baptism of Desire and Blood (Read 3862 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:15:30 PM »

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Name one and we'll see if it has to do with particular facts or the truth of doctrine.

They're factual contradictions.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:17:58 PM »

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Now lets have it, do you hold that this revelation is authentic?

I have absolutely no idea whether every statement in St. Catherin's dialogues are truly divine locutions or whether some of them represent injections from her own thoughts. They generally make for good spiritual reading, but beyond that, how should I know?

Caminus · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:21:37 PM »

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Now lets have it, do you hold that this revelation is authentic?

I have absolutely no idea whether every statement in St. Catherin's dialogues are truly divine locutions or whether some of them represent injections from her own thoughts. They generally make for good spiritual reading, but beyond that, how should I know?

So you would rather cast doubt upon the entire revelation? You would admit that this revelation has been judged authentic and worthy of belief and as such it contains nothing harmful to faith or morals?

Caminus · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:22:50 PM »

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Name one and we'll see if it has to do with particular facts or the truth of doctrine.

They're factual contradictions.

Precisely, so now you can stop mentioning such discrepanies as if their material to the discussion.

Caminus · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:23:55 PM »

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Again, you assert, but do not demonstrate. Your argument can be reduced to the absurd. Why not just call every bishop and priest a "doctor of the Church" in the proper and strict sense?

Nonsense. Being a member of the Church Teaching is a prerequisite for being honored by the title of Doctor of the Church, but does not guarantee it. You can be a member of the teaching Church without becoming a saintly Doctor of the Church but you cannot become a Doctor of the Church without being a member of the Church teaching.

You cannot become a Doctor Ecclesiae without being part of the Ecclesia Docens.

So what do you think of St. Faustina, Caminus?

Nonsense is correct, that's what reductio ad absurdem means. And you keep asserting this prerequisite. Is that on your own authority?