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God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
« on: April 26, 2025, 11:44:46 AM »
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                              Did God Finally Say ‘Enough’ to Francis?

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
    My friend Jan was curious about my thoughts about the death of Francis on Easter Monday 2025. It was a surprise, the last surprise of Francis, who reveled in springing one jolt after another in his effort to destroy the Church. For me there were no tears for the man who used every opportunity he could to destroy Tradition and persecute true Catholics.


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    Francis greeting the people on Easter Sunday, the day before his death

    But I wonder if several of the last actions of Francis did not finally test God’s anger too much, and so He called him to judgment after that long hospital stay at Gemelli Hospital.

    I am speaking about:

    • Franics’ proposal to meet at Nicaea to change the Easter date to correspond to the so-called Orthodox Calendar, and
    • The Vatican approval he gave to the Italian Bishops Conference’s directive to allow ‘non-practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs’ to enter seminaries to train to be priests.


    An ecuмenical encounter at Nicaea
    Only one week before Francis was admitted to Gemelli on 14 February 2025, the Vatican issued a docuмent announcing the plan for a grand ecuмenical encounter to celebrate the 1700th anniversary of the First Council of Nicaea which took place in May of 325, as Atila Guimaraes analyzed here.

    The meeting in Turkey to be hold in May would gather together schismatics, heretics (Protestants from the WCC) and Francis in order to reaffirm a pretended common belief in the Nicaea Creed (In fact, Catholics believes that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, and Schismatics accept only that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father).


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    Francis, always eager to make concessions, bows before the Bulgarian schismatic patriarch & kisses his cross


    More significantly, according to Francis’ plan, Catholics would abandon our Gregorian Calendar and adopt the ‘Orthodox’ Julian Calendar in order to share a common date for Easter. According to Francis, “the Catholic Church is open to accepting the date that everyone wants: a date of unity.”

    It is not a date “everyone” wants. Changing the Gregorian calendar and shifting back to a calendar system that is 13 days behind it is nothing but a concession to the schismatics.

    What would this mean? That Saint Days in the liturgical calendar would have to shift and be observed later? What about Christmas, which many schismatics celebrate on January 7 instead of December 25? At any rate, it would mean more change and chaos for Catholics, in the name of an "ecuмenical unity" in order to please the schismatic sects.

    But God did not allow Francis to make this wreckage in the Catholic Liturgical Year. It was one of Pope Bergoglio’s final affronts. On the 1700th anniversary year of the Nicaea Council, at least, the ecuмenical encounter with Francis will not take place and, with his death, talk of changing calendars this May seems to be off the agenda.

    ‘ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs’ entering Italian seminaries

    In January 2025, under Francis’ lead the Vatican took another radically unorthodox action: It approved the directive of the Italian Bishops Conference (CIE) that will allow “ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ seminary candidates” to be assessed in the same way as “heterosɛҳuąƖ candidates.” “An orientation towards celibate life” will be required of both ‘ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs’ and normal men, placing the two “types” on equal footing, as if they are equal in the eyes of God and man.


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    CEI President Card.Zuppi: ‘Non-practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs can train to be priests’


    The decision was announced by CIE president Card. Matteo Zuppi, who has been dubbed ‘the queer cardinal’ for his LGBT-friendly stance” and support of inclusive language and “same-sex unions.” A favorite of Francis, Zuppi is high on the list of contenders for the next papacy.

    First, I disagree strongly with the term ‘ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ,’ as if there is a genre of men whom God ‘created’ as such. God created man and woman, and not two classes of each sex. Accustoming Catholics to these terms is part of the propaganda campaign of the LGBT propaganda to destroy God’s plan of Creation.

    As noted above, this new directive will officially allow a “ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ candidate” to the priesthood so long as he observes celibacy. That is, a man will now be able to profess himself openly to be ‘ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ’ and train as a seminarian since, according to the guidelines, the most important thing for aspiring priests is to show “an orientation towards celibate life.”

    The docuмent reads: “In the formative process [of becoming a priest], when reference is made to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies, it is appropriate not to reduce discernment to this aspect alone. The objective of the training for priesthood in the emotional-sɛҳuąƖ sphere is the ability to welcome chastity in celibacy as a gift, to freely choose and to responsibly live it.”

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    Francis hosts transgender ‘women’ for a Vatican luncheon,
    ; below, he tells ousted homo seminarian Lorenzo to ‘go ahead with your vocation’
    gαy seminarian
    In short, the candidates are held to one same standard of chastity. There is, however, a great difference between the the sin of fornication and the sin of sodomy. For men to have illicit relations with women is a natural albeit serious sin; on the other hand Scriptures repeatedly condemns those “who defile themselves with men" because it is "an unnatural sin that cries out to Heaven for vengeance.” (1 Tim 1:10)

    Even the very weak previous Vatican statements of 2005 and 2016 state that men with deep-seated ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies or who support the so-called "gαy culture" cannot be admitted to the seminary. This attempt to justify the sin of sodomy by allowing Italian "gαy" men to enter seminaries - "It’s okay as long as they are not practicing" - is an affront to God and man.

    Let us not forget that the Francis papacy has been notoriously favorable to the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ-transgender movement, welcoming groups and individuals into the Vatican, urging “inclusiveness” at every opportunity, allowing priests to bless same-sex couples etc  As recently as last June he addressed a 'ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ' man who had been expelled from a seminary, and encouraged him to “go ahead with your vocation.” So, it is not a surprise that he would approve the Italian Bishops’ new directive.

    In fact, one might justifiably state that this Vatican-approved directive on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ seminary candidates was intended to open a floodgate to encourage Bishops in other countries to adopt a similar protocol until it would become the norm of the Church in letter as well as in spirit.

    Our Lady of Good Success told the Conceptionist nun Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres that there is a limit to the patience of God: “Know that Divine Justice releases terrible chastisements on entire nations not only for the sins of the people, but especially for those of priests and religious persons. For the latter are called by the perfection of their state to be the salt of the earth, the masters of truth, and the shields to hold back Divine Ire.” (The Admirable Life of Mother Mariana, Vol II, p. 283).

    Perhaps this step – allowing Italian candidates for priesthood to profess themselves to be ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs – was the final stroke of iniquity that set off the Divine Ire. To demean in this way the sacral priesthood instituted by Christ may have been the limit that Our Lord would bear from the Francis papacy.

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    Staining the papal flag with concessions to the sodomites...

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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #2 on: April 26, 2025, 11:58:50 AM »
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  • Just addressing one of the points, about accepting sodomites into the seminary:

    1. Sodomites are NOT considered the same as normal men by God. Sodomy is a perversion. Sodomites are damaged goods at best; a not-to-be-dispensed impediment to the Priesthood.

    2. Sodomites are perverts. It is not just a "preference" (I will refrain from being vulgar here, but I could!) "Joe twinkletoes has his husband, I have my wife!" NO! The two are not equivalent at all.

    3. Related to #2, sodomites are emotionally damaged, emotionally stunted, extremely selfish, stuck at a 10 year old's emotional development. Sodomites obsess about the body, the physical, and sex. Normal people do not do this. "Sex" is not their identity or even their hobby. It is SUCH A MINOR PART of life for normal people. But for sodomites, it is their hobby, their main interest, their obsession, and their LIFE.

    4. Need I point out? The seminary is filled with men. I, as a normal non-pervert man, would not be tempted against the 6th/9th by the seminary population, being as there are no women. Meanwhile, a pervert/sodomite would be tempted. Even if all the other seminarians were "straight", that wouldn't lessen the temptation the sodomite would experience. It might even make them more alluring as a challenge or forbidden fruit of sorts.
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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #3 on: April 26, 2025, 12:05:13 PM »
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  • That "Cardinal" Zuppi looks like he could be pedophile John Podesta's twin brother. 
    I would not be the least bit surprised either if they share the same proclivities. 

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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #4 on: April 26, 2025, 12:05:36 PM »
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  • I can smash the whole "sodomites can't help how they were born" with one simple argument:

    Then why are they significantly more promiscuous than normal/heterosɛҳuąƖs? Why don't they get married (or partner up, where marriage is not legal for them) and have a normal attitude towards sex, albeit "oriented" towards men rather than women?

    Wouldn't they have average levels of domestic abuse, child abuse, STDs, promiscuity, drug/alcohol abuse, pedophilia, etc.?

    But the facts clearly show this is not the case. Ergo, there is something seriously wrong, morally, with sodomites.
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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2025, 12:16:18 PM »
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  •                           Did God Finally Say ‘Enough’ to Francis?

    Well, duh ... obviously.  God's in total control, and He'll say "Enough" to each and every one of us at some point.  Question is whether God said "Enough" because things are going to get better or because God decided to chastise us even more.  I believe that God put Bergoglio out there so that the conservative Conciliars could have a chance to wake up and get off the fence, since anyone with a Catholic cell left in his body has to realize that Jorge's not Catholic.  But most of the Trad, Inc. Popesplainers stayed put.  Now that God gave us this last chance with graces that very few corresponded with (though some did) ... I expect things to get worse, much worse.  We already have Trad, Inc. out there pulling for Sarah and even Pizzaguy ... as if those could actually solve the Crisis, which requires declaring V2 an NOM completely null.

    Well, Marshall, Matt, et al. ... you had your chance to get onto the lifeboats of Tradition, but you refused (would lose too much revenue) ... so you're about to go down with the ship now.

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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #6 on: April 26, 2025, 12:17:57 PM »
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  • That "Cardinal" Zuppi looks like he could be pedophile John Podesta's twin brother.
    I would not be the least bit surprised either if they share the same proclivities.

    Yeah, there are about a half dozen of them in this category ... and then Tagle could be the guy that eventually got elected in the Conclave movie, not simply due to extreme effeminacy ... but he even looks like him.  If they roll Tagle out there, I'd insist upon that traditional "validation" of whether or not he's actually a man.

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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #7 on: April 26, 2025, 12:22:15 PM »
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  • Yeah, there are about a half dozen of them in this category ... and then Tagle could be the guy that eventually got elected in the Conclave movie, not simply due to extreme effeminacy ... but he even looks like him.  If they roll Tagle out there, I'd insist upon that traditional "validation" of whether or not he's actually a man.
    Indeed, Tagle makes Liberace seem like John Wayne in comparison 


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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #8 on: April 26, 2025, 12:23:06 PM »
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  • That "Cardinal" Zuppi looks like he could be pedophile John Podesta's twin brother.
    I would not be the least bit surprised either if they share the same proclivities.

    A physiognomy of weakness, duplicity & malice.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #9 on: April 26, 2025, 12:44:38 PM »
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  • Borgoglio had hell eyes. Whenever I saw his eyes, I could see just a flicker of hell. Some jews have the same eyes. 
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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2025, 12:45:24 PM »
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  • I can smash the whole "sodomites can't help how they were born" with one simple argument:

    Then why are they significantly more promiscuous than normal/heterosɛҳuąƖs? Why don't they get married (or partner up, where marriage is not legal for them) and have a normal attitude towards sex, albeit "oriented" towards men rather than women?

    Wouldn't they have average levels of domestic abuse, child abuse, STDs, promiscuity, drug/alcohol abuse, pedophilia, etc.?

    But the facts clearly show this is not the case. Ergo, there is something seriously wrong, morally, with sodomites.

    A quick anecdotal recollection:

    In 2017, a chapel friend handed me a biology research paper that purported to prove that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are inherently born that way.   This was given to her by the Jєωιѕн owner of the software company "Sales Force".  He knew my friend was anti-LBGTQ and a traditional Catholic.  Therefore, he was attempting to teach her the "science".

    Having a biological sciences background, I readily accepted to read the paper.
    Recall there were many errors in the study's scientific method, such as lacking a proper control group.  However, the subjects under study were (2) dead lesbians in their mid 30's.  They examined their brains finding structural anomalies in both. 
    So, their conclusion essentially was: "See, queers are born this way".

    Now, of course this was a flawed, politically motivated study, but one thing caught my attention, which was their admission of structural anomalies in both brains.

    I have no immediate technical reference to offer, but I was listening to a recorded talk stating that when we sin, such as in the act of watching pornography, it causes some slight neurological damage to the brain.   

    If this is true, consider that the two subjects were lesbians engaged in a life of impurity.  One could easily extrapolate that their brain anomalies were the results of damaging themselves with this vice of perversion.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2025, 01:04:59 PM »
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  • Satan has a multitude of ways to fill the ranks of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs but it's never been proven that biology is one of them.
    I was acquainted with one homo back in college and since homos can rarely talk about anything besides their orientation I asked him point blank one day if he ever wondered why he had that particular orientation. 
    He answered very matter of factly that it was due to having a domineering mother and an emotionally distant father.
    He even laughed about what a cliche it was. 
    I had a male cousin whose mother always wanted a girl and actually dressed the poor kid as a girl when he was quite young. Unsurprisingly he turned into a raging ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ in his teens. 
    Back in the 80's the militant homos were to determined to claim some genetic basis for same sex attraction to make it as natural as heterosɛҳuąƖity. 
    The tranny movement hasn't even bothered to come up with a coherent explanation for this sudden explosion of gender dysphoria among the youth of today.
    Part of it is mental illness, sometimes even demonic possession but more often than not attention seeking caused by the influence of social media. There are no doubt other contributing factors, all the hormones they put in processed foods, and soy, which is in EVERYTHING, is known to increase estrogen levels resulting in more feminine men.

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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #12 on: April 26, 2025, 01:16:22 PM »
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  • I've previously posted the following but this thread inspires me to bring it to readers' attention, again:

    I read Bible verses that seem to suggest fαɢɢօtry is a worse sin than rape or murder of the opposite sex. fαɢɢօtry is so evil that a man even offered his own daughter to be raped in order to prevent the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ rape of another man. It's in the Book of Judges 19:22-25. Perhaps, read the whole chapter for a little better context.  
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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2025, 02:02:21 PM »
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  • A quick anecdotal recollection:

    In 2017, a chapel friend handed me a biology research paper that purported to prove that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are inherently born that way.  This was given to her by the Jєωιѕн owner of the software company "Sales Force".  He knew my friend was anti-LBGTQ and a traditional Catholic.  Therefore, he was attempting to teach her the "science".

    Having a biological sciences background, I readily accepted to read the paper.
    Recall there were many errors in the study's scientific method, such as lacking a proper control group.  However, the subjects under study were (2) dead lesbians in their mid 30's.  They examined their brains finding structural anomalies in both. 
    So, their conclusion essentially was: "See, queers are born this way".

    Now, of course this was a flawed, politically motivated study, but one thing caught my attention, which was their admission of structural anomalies in both brains.

    I have no immediate technical reference to offer, but I was listening to a recorded talk stating that when we sin, such as in the act of watching pornography, it causes some slight neurological damage to the brain. 

    If this is true, consider that the two subjects were lesbians engaged in a life of impurity.  One could easily extrapolate that their brain anomalies were the results of damaging themselves with this vice of perversion.

    Precisely so!  And as you and I noted in our 2001 leafleting campaign against the fαɢɢօts…  the "born that way" shuck is an irrelevant diversion.  People are born with many diseases… and we still treat those diseases!






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    Re: God said "Enough!" to anti-pope Francis
    « Reply #14 on: April 26, 2025, 03:17:27 PM »
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  • Omni magazine for October 1990, front page, "Uncertain Future of gender" 12th Anniversary issue.  Roger Gorski Pg. 71.  An inoculation given to child/baby at the right time, at puberty a girl will grow a penis. the word Guevedoces is used to describe these girls.  So, doing arithmetic subtract 12-14 years from 1990. Inoculations 1976 or so.  The girls with penis are in Dominican Republic and New Guinea.

    Art Bell had Roger Gorski on Coast-to-Coast.  I called in and called Gorski a demon!