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Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2025, 12:43:20 PM »
I have not once, ever attended a traditional chapel that had a "stable and joyful community life".  They're a bunch of finger pointing, holier-than-thou, arrogant, misogynistic, condescending, racist, bonnet people.  I have learned to go get the sacraments and leave.
I have had this same experience at some traditional Masses… unfortunately. But they’re not all like that. The SSPX chapel in London UK is full of so many different nationalities, ages, types of people, social classes etc that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for the clique judgemental vibe to prevail. 
What country do you live in?

Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2025, 12:45:06 PM »
Because the traditional movement is now so diverse, there is a tendency for some people to overly justify their chosen position by condemning other positions. This is not right nor healthy but it is happening. I don't know where you are from but here in Ireland the SSPX Mass centers, for the most part, are welcoming places. We have quite a variety of different nationalities attend too, from the Poles, to Asian, to African families. The outreach to them has been exceptional.

True, I do not like the dogmatic Sede-vacantist position and have been quite verbal about this. But this is because it is neither a traditional stance (it is a novel idea) or Catholic - because immediately you are setting yourself up as a your own Pope and church - making a dogma out of a perceived theologically opinion.  However, that said, we have a number of people who consider themselves 'sede-vacantist' and they are all welcomed and wanted because they keep their personal belief to themselves.
Is that the Dublin SSPX? I can imagine it’s a little like London, cliques and weirdness is more st the smaller chapels where there are just a few people.


Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2025, 12:49:27 PM »
I have not once, ever attended a traditional chapel that had a "stable and joyful community life".  They're a bunch of finger pointing, holier-than-thou, arrogant, misogynistic, condescending, racist, bonnet people.  I have learned to go get the sacraments and leave.
I think the diocesan traditional Latin Masses are generally welcoming as are the SSPX larger city based chapels though I can only speak for the UK and Ireland. I haven’t attended a trad Mass anywhere else.

Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2025, 12:57:01 PM »
Who is we? Who are you to speak for all of the "resistance?"

And the tone you use for "tolerating" Father Ringrose is completely disrespectful.

The point is people change how they view the Crisis as the years go by.  Nobody is exactly the same as they were 30 years ago. 

Without papal authority, we are not going to have answers.

Tradition is indeed living, but only in the sense that lesser (small “t”) traditions can develop in a homogeneous way, never by mutation or rupture. The error of historicism falsely concludes that “we are in different times,” as if truth itself could change. In reality, the crisis remains objectively the same as it was in Archbishop Lefebvre’s day, and he already provided the clear Catholic answers to it. Those answers remain valid because they were drawn from what Eternal Rome had already settled long before the Second Vatican Council. A handful of faithful Resistance priests continue this same fidelity today, preserving the unbroken attitude of the past thirty years.

Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2025, 01:14:36 PM »
No one who actually knew him well ever even heard him say that or thought that of him.


He remained razor sharp right to the end.

I sincerely hope, for the sake of His Excellency’s soul, that this take is not true. And if it is, may it be the result of weakness or confusion in his later years rather than deliberate deceit. It is far more charitable to believe that he succuмbed to liberal influences or infirmity than to think he acted as a conscious infiltrator against the Faith.