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Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2025, 11:10:48 AM »
Look, if you choose to take that risk and partake in a loose association without the safe guards of the Church, then that's your choice. 
Like the SSPX? No Traditional Catholic has the "safe guards of the Church", that's kind of why this is called a CRISIS

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But you must admit it is a choice without precedent and it is a choice fraught with immediate danger and an unknown future
Like resisting an Ecuмenical Council and the teachings and decisions of 5 successive popes over the span of 50+ years?

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For all its failings, the SSPX provide traditional sacraments, Masses, sermons, schools, community life. 

Like every other Traditional group? 

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Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #61 on: November 11, 2025, 02:42:11 PM »
Like the SSPX? No Traditional Catholic has the "safe guards of the Church", that's kind of why this is called a CRISIS
Like resisting an Ecuмenical Council and the teachings and decisions of 5 successive popes over the span of 50+ years?

Like every other Traditional group?

:laugh2:
With a hierarchy there is a means of redress and a means to choose a different Mass center. A loose association has no hierarchy and the pool is incredibly small and fragmented. People, including bishops, are doing what they feel like without accountability. The fake priest Moran is a classic example illustrating this grave danger. Here in Ireland, Bp. Ballini was the only resistance priest here for years. People had no choice but to attend his Masses if they supported the resistance. They felt trapped and controlled. If they dared query something they felt was wrong, they were dressed down like children and told they could leave - knowing they had nowhere to go. I for one do not like that kind of manipulation. I know that not every resistance priest acts like that but that was the reality in Ireland. So to to say that the resistance is the only place you can save your soul is absolute nonsense. The SSPX is by far superior to anything Bp. Ballini has promised and failed to deliver. Just before he parted ways with the SSPX, I asked Fr. Ballini if he was a sedevacantist. I stood there waiting in silence for a few seconds while he thought about what to say. Finally, after a lot of mental wrestling, he let out a slow, drawn out, very guarded, 'nooooo....' which gave every indication of mental reservation. I don't like that. I don't like pretense. I don't like not knowing what I am dealing with. At least the policy of the SSPX is open to all. And my children - now young adults - still all go to Mass and, DON"T view other Catholics - regardless of where they go - as lepers.

So I repeat - and this is addressed to those who dogmatically believe - like Mr. Gubbins - that you will lose your faith outside the resistance: do you have teenage children?


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Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2025, 02:55:19 PM »
With a hierarchy there is a means of redress and a means to choose a different Mass center. A loose association has no hierarchy and the pool is incredibly small and fragmented. People, including bishops, are doing what they feel like without accountability. The fake priest Moran is a classic example illustrating this grave danger. Here in Ireland, Bp. Ballini was the only resistance priest here for years. People had no choice but to attend his Masses if they supported the resistance. They felt trapped and controlled. If they dared query something they felt was wrong, they were dressed down like children and told they could leave - knowing they had nowhere to go. I for one do not like that kind of manipulation. I know that not every resistance priest acts like that but that was the reality in Ireland. So to to say that the resistance is the only place you can save your soul is absolute nonsense. The SSPX is by far superior to anything Bp. Ballini has promised and failed to deliver. Just before he parted ways with the SSPX, I asked Fr. Ballini if he was a sedevacantist. I stood there waiting in silence for a few seconds while he thought about what to say. Finally, after a lot of mental wrestling, he let out a slow, drawn out, very guarded, 'nooooo....' which gave every indication of mental reservation. I don't like that. I don't like pretense. I don't like not knowing what I am dealing with. At least the policy of the SSPX is open to all. And my children - now young adults - still all go to Mass and, DON"T view other Catholics - regardless of where they go - as lepers.

So I repeat - and this is addressed to those who dogmatically believe - like Mr. Gubbins - that you will lose your faith outside the resistance: do you have teenage children?
The sspx does not have a hierarchy, except a legal one.  :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

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Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2025, 02:58:35 PM »
With a hierarchy there is a means of redress and a means to choose a different Mass center. A loose association has no hierarchy and the pool is incredibly small and fragmented. People, including bishops, are doing what they feel like without accountability. The fake priest Moran is a classic example illustrating this grave danger. Here in Ireland, Bp. Ballini was the only resistance priest here for years. People had no choice but to attend his Masses if they supported the resistance. They felt trapped and controlled. If they dared query something they felt was wrong, they were dressed down like children and told they could leave - knowing they had nowhere to go. I for one do not like that kind of manipulation. I know that not every resistance priest acts like that but that was the reality in Ireland. So to to say that the resistance is the only place you can save your soul is absolute nonsense. The SSPX is by far superior to anything Bp. Ballini has promised and failed to deliver. Just before he parted ways with the SSPX, I asked Fr. Ballini if he was a sedevacantist. I stood there waiting in silence for a few seconds while he thought about what to say. Finally, after a lot of mental wrestling, he let out a slow, drawn out, very guarded, 'nooooo....' which gave every indication of mental reservation. I don't like that. I don't like pretense. I don't like not knowing what I am dealing with. At least the policy of the SSPX is open to all. And my children - now young adults - still all go to Mass and, DON"T view other Catholics - regardless of where they go - as lepers.

So I repeat - and this is addressed to those who dogmatically believe - like Mr. Gubbins - that you will lose your faith outside the resistance: do you have teenage children?
The children follow the parents.  If the parents are strong in the Faith and the wife does not overstep the husband's authority those children most likely will keep the Faith.  My children have experienced R&R, Total Sede, and Sedeprivationism, through the years all in  one chapel, but this hasn't caused them to lose the Faith. 

Re: Go forth and LARP!
« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2025, 03:39:32 PM »
With a hierarchy there is a means of redress and a means to choose a different Mass center. A loose association has no hierarchy and the pool is incredibly small and fragmented. People, including bishops, are doing what they feel like without accountability. The fake priest Moran is a classic example illustrating this grave danger. Here in Ireland, Bp. Ballini was the only resistance priest here for years. People had no choice but to attend his Masses if they supported the resistance. They felt trapped and controlled. If they dared query something they felt was wrong, they were dressed down like children and told they could leave - knowing they had nowhere to go. I for one do not like that kind of manipulation. I know that not every resistance priest acts like that but that was the reality in Ireland. So to to say that the resistance is the only place you can save your soul is absolute nonsense. The SSPX is by far superior to anything Bp. Ballini has promised and failed to deliver. Just before he parted ways with the SSPX, I asked Fr. Ballini if he was a sedevacantist. I stood there waiting in silence for a few seconds while he thought about what to say. Finally, after a lot of mental wrestling, he let out a slow, drawn out, very guarded, 'nooooo....' which gave every indication of mental reservation. I don't like that. I don't like pretense. I don't like not knowing what I am dealing with. At least the policy of the SSPX is open to all. And my children - now young adults - still all go to Mass and, DON"T view other Catholics - regardless of where they go - as lepers.

So I repeat - and this is addressed to those who dogmatically believe - like Mr. Gubbins - that you will lose your faith outside the resistance: do you have teenage children?
No SSPX priest or bishop has any authority over the faithful who attend their masses. No Traditional priest or bishop of any group has authority over the Traditional Catholics attending their masses. That's a part of the nature of the "Crisis"

I wouldn't give too much time to Tom's "remnant" ramblings. If his "remnant" is anything like him, I'd be afraid you'd lose the faith inside of it.

He is not a representation of the Resistance in general, as he is probably a part of Fr. Hewko's group or Fr. (Bishop?) Pfeiffer's. Anyone calling themselves "the remnant" or the "true Resistance" or whatever generally falls under one of those two groups