Stephanos,

In the few days you have been here the majority of your posts are long copy & paste articles that no one is going to take the time to read through. A more fruitful discussion will be had if you posted one article as a new topic and then offered your comments on it and invited others to do so.

You've also managed to refer to JP II as an anti-pope and refer to a true anti-pope Pope Gregory XVII as someone Catholics should take seriously. It has been my experience that people such as yourself generally make message boards like this a very unpleasant place to be and invite like minded people to bombard it with similar posts such as yours. I hope this does not become the case and does not have to be if you turn down the rhetoric just a notch. There are other sedevacantists here that seem to coexist quite well by doing just that.

If you are not reading them, then don't comment on them.

This juvenile attitude of yours that posters should politely submit a tiny little someting and then sit back and have self proclaimed experts like you tell us what is the meaning of everything is an adolescent attempt at censorship.

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Mike,

Your are repeating yourself and not addressing anything point by point.

Everything there is accurate.

You haven't supported any of your contentions. You have only name called and made groundless accusations. This is typical of Novus Ordinarians when they are faced with the truth.

Have I called you a name? No, I haven't, that proves me you are not thinking logically and you can't argue rationally so you resort to name-calling. You said I was a legend in my own mind. That's name-calling so can't think logically. When confronted you resort to name calling because you think you are justified.

I've already been called a Novus Ordinarian and a legend in my own mind. Great job on being logical and consistent  :applause:

I contended I quoted his book before when I had it with me and refuted such proof-texting of abusing his work. Yes, I have done so previously. Since you think that's what the words mean, why don't you find where he specifically states that Rome in Her hierarchy will apostatize. Here's a hint: it doesn't exist.

The words you quoted were for a parallel church which would seek to overthrow and look like the real Church. You get the book and look up how he sees the hierarchy in the Church always present. You are abusing the man's works, and any priest who does so should be in the confessional. If you didn't know this you cannot be held accountable. But now that you know you have an obligation to get the book and read it yourself. It doesn't support your assertions at all.

I don't have time to get a copy of the book and show you how ridiculous this proof-texting is by a wonderful priest who doesn't support the conclusions drawn. Do you even own the book in question or are you copy and pasting it from another website? Do you even know who Fr. Sylvester Berry was without looking him up?

Someone like yourself needs to do some more logical analysis. You should look in the mirror before name calling, because right now I think you're disrespectful at best, andI won't say what you are at worst, but you don't know what you are talking about.

Why don't you be a man and argue rationally, get his book, and stop stealing pages off the internet. You didn't source the page you took that work from, which is legally stealing if you weren't aware. Why don't we argue the principles and go from there. You get his book and we'll go from there ok Mr. IthinkImatougguybehindacomputerscreen who doesn't have a clue and is a mindless drone (see, that's name calling and I hate doing it so let's stop and be men, I only said that for effect so you understand that I hate name calling).

Young man, you think you are tough. You aren't. You are a twist and distort typical novus ordinarian. As for your tough be a man spin, young man, don't ever threaten me. You can't carry that weight.

Young man, you think you are tough. You aren't. You are a twist and distort typical novus ordinarian. As for your tough be a man spin, young man, don't ever threaten me. You can't carry that weight.

Calling you a liar is appropriate if you smear lies. You propogated a lie and used an article to promote a lie about a theologian on the interpretation you wanted him to mean. Quote the paragraph before and after the first quote you gave by Fr. Berry please and show everyone what I mean that you can't because you are quoting a website and taking it to mean an agenda.

That's not name calling. A lie is when you knowingly do something that isn't true. Name calling like jerk, moron, etc.. I never threatened you either so get off your high-horse. I don't threaten people. You can't think rationally.

So I have to suppose one of 2 things: you are a liar, and the worst of them because you use good theologians to your agenda OR you are so out of touch with reality you believe you know something you don't. I'll now presuppose the second option, namely you are out of touch with reality.

You quoted the author, but notice you weren't quoting a book, but a website that quoted a book. Show us the website got that from.

I noticed you never told me who Fr. Berry was. He was a theologian at St. Mary's Seminary at Emmitsburg, MD. You don't have the book and you are an imposter pretending you are doing a public service for mankind by quoting great books you are reading and instead you are copy and pasting sedevacantist websites. Brilliant Stephanos.