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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Emile on January 23, 2021, 11:05:26 PM

Title: Germany
Post by: Emile on January 23, 2021, 11:05:26 PM
Does anyone know why Germany is such a big player in world events? I'm thinking of Luther, the modernist clergy
that were such a big part of Vatican II, WW1 & 2. Any articles, books, docuмentaries that try to explain this? Thank you.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: SimpleMan on January 24, 2021, 04:22:44 AM
Nothing scholarly, but as one who has just a dash of that good German blood (my son actually has more, Deo gratias, through his mother), I'd just throw out this much --- strong, resolute, centrally located (within Europe), fairly homogeneous, very intelligent, good at matters of organization, gifted in matters of science, math, and engineering (STEM Nation!), good at logic and philosophical thought --- in short, just a lot of good things that have all come together through the centuries.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: josefamenendez on January 24, 2021, 08:46:27 AM
Nothing scholarly, but as one who has just a dash of that good German blood (my son actually has more, Deo gratias, through his mother), I'd just throw out this much --- strong, resolute, centrally located (within Europe), fairly homogeneous, very intelligent, good at matters of organization, gifted in matters of science, math, and engineering (STEM Nation!), good at logic and philosophical thought --- in short, just a lot of good things that have all come together through the centuries.
And because of all of these superior attributes, they were a major threat to the jews and had to be vanquished.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Novus Weirdo Mess on January 24, 2021, 11:10:14 AM
The German Mauser is probably the best Mauser made.

Too bad their cars are overpriced junk.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Novus Weirdo Mess on January 24, 2021, 11:22:36 AM
Will somebody please tell the Germans to regain their instinct for self-preservation, and to dispose their unconditional obedience to authority that actually hates real ethnic Germans, and to shun political correctness?
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Spork on January 24, 2021, 01:27:34 PM
His(der Vaterland) internalisations of his oppressors is certainly top notch and stands out most conspicuously among his EU featherweights. Disagreeing with a certain point in history is a crime. I wonder if saying women should stay home and raise children is not far behind in its unlawfulness. 

More directly to the OP, this is a fascinating insight into why possibly Germany is called the "Land der Dichter und Denker": 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: SimpleMan on January 24, 2021, 02:56:28 PM
His(der Vaterland) internalisations of his oppressors is certainly top notch and stands out most conspicuously among his EU featherweights. Disagreeing with a certain point in history is a crime. I wonder if saying women should stay home and raise children is not far behind in its unlawfulness.

More directly to the OP, this is a fascinating insight into why possibly Germany is called the "Land der Dichter und Denker":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
To whom are you referring when you say "his"?
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Emile on January 24, 2021, 03:16:43 PM
His(der Vaterland) internalisations of his oppressors is certainly top notch and stands out most conspicuously among his EU featherweights. Disagreeing with a certain point in history is a crime. I wonder if saying women should stay home and raise children is not far behind in its unlawfulness.

More directly to the OP, this is a fascinating insight into why possibly Germany is called the "Land der Dichter und Denker":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
Thanks for the link Spork. Looks interesting.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Emile on January 24, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
Nothing scholarly, but as one who has just a dash of that good German blood (my son actually has more, Deo gratias, through his mother), I'd just throw out this much --- strong, resolute, centrally located (within Europe), fairly homogeneous, very intelligent, good at matters of organization, gifted in matters of science, math, and engineering (STEM Nation!), good at logic and philosophical thought --- in short, just a lot of good things that have all come together through the centuries.
You forgot to say how good looking we are too! ;)
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Spork on January 24, 2021, 03:40:20 PM
To whom are you referring when you say "his"?
It would be "what." And what is in parentheses. 
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Spork on January 24, 2021, 03:41:10 PM
You forgot to say how good looking we are too! ;)
Woher stammen Sie? 
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Yeti on January 24, 2021, 03:57:23 PM
Germany comprises most of what used to be the Holy Roman Empire.
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It is a large country with vast resources, most of all its people, who are intelligent, diligent, hard-working and serious.
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They were the most powerful enemy of Russian communism in the 20th century, so they had to be destroyed, sadly with the help of our own country.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Spork on January 24, 2021, 04:02:04 PM
Germany comprises most of what used to be the Holy Roman Empire.
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It is a large country with vast resources, most of all its people, who are intelligent, diligent, hard-working and serious.
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They were the most powerful enemy of Russian ƈσmmυɳιsm in the 20th century, so they had to be destroyed, sadly with the help of our own country.
Not really. As far as raw materials, nothing compared to the Scandinavian countries. Mostly landlocked and hence why they were starving(by design)in both WW1 and WW2. 
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Emile on January 24, 2021, 06:08:19 PM
Woher stammen Sie?
I'm from the hinterlands of the U.S. My ancestry is mostly German with a little Irish, French, & French Canadian (I guess a few ancestors jumped the fence ::)). How about yourself?
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Matthew on January 24, 2021, 10:29:53 PM
Nothing scholarly, but as one who has just a dash of that good German blood (my son actually has more, Deo gratias, through his mother), I'd just throw out this much --- strong, resolute, centrally located (within Europe), fairly homogeneous, very intelligent, good at matters of organization, gifted in matters of science, math, and engineering (STEM Nation!), good at logic and philosophical thought --- in short, just a lot of good things that have all come together through the centuries.

Actually, according to Fr. Iscara, German philosophers have a tendency to lose touch with reality, as they build entire "castles in the sky". Just look at Kant and others!

It's like their (powerful) brain falls down a rabbit hole of its own making.

I still get a chuckle -- Fr. Iscara said to the class, "Now if you run off and tattle to Fr. [Wolfgang] Goettler about what I said about Germans, then when they send me to Africa, I'll ask for you as an assistant." He had a great sense of humor.

If you had to sum up Germans with one temperament, it would be: Melancholic. That is the temperament that specializes in details, organization, deep thought, etc.

I see why so many Germans paired up with Irish. It's the "opposites attract" phenomenon.

I'd hire a German engineer over an Irish one. But I know who hosts a better party!

I'm both, BTW. I can talk, because I see these traits in my own extended family.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Incredulous on January 24, 2021, 11:12:50 PM



I read where Rommel disliked German soldiers because of their rigidness or timidity and lack of initiative during changing battlefield conditions.


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On the other hand, he was defeated by and respected New Zealand's soldiers, with their fierce Maori warriors for the exact opposite qualities.
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Spork on January 28, 2021, 05:23:05 PM
I'm from the hinterlands of the U.S. My ancestry is mostly German with a little Irish, French, & French Canadian (I guess a few ancestors jumped the fence ::)). How about yourself?
From a solidly ethnic German area of the Midwest. However, I am not of direct German DNA, but Polish, Irish and Scandinavian(which I guess has elements of Germanic DNA). But no direct "My-family-is-from-Burgerschweigerstein-and-I-know-a-little-German." I do speak almost fluent German, though.  
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on January 29, 2021, 02:28:46 PM
After the War to about 1950 the allies occupying Germany allowed radical and Zionists Jews to kill and murder any German that
had any nationalist and pride of being German.   Many things happened in post WW2 Germany has yet to come to light because
of oath to secrecy. Any revelations could cause heavy penalties to themselves and their families to the source reveling the
horrible deeds.  
Title: Re: Germany
Post by: Incredulous on January 29, 2021, 10:26:21 PM
After the War to about 1950 the allies occupying Germany allowed radical and Zionists Jҽωs to kill and murder any German that
had any nationalist and pride of being German.   Many things happened in post WW2 Germany has yet to come to light because
of oath to secrecy. Any revelations could cause heavy penalties to themselves and their families to the source reveling the
horrible deeds.  

That's why General Patton was αssαssιnαtҽd.

He knew "Ike the Swedish Kike" had sent millions of Russian POWs back to Stalin in rail cars, to certain death.

He knew Eisenhower set-up German starvation (POW) camps all over Europe.  1.4 million German soldiers had no food or shelter, and over 1 million died.

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This totally defied the Geneva Convention.  It was тαℓмυdic and Ike was part of the Zionist ʀɛʋօʟutιօn.

If Patton would have run for president, he would have been so popular, the Jҽωs couldn't rig the vote for the Ike.