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Fulton Sheen video praising John XXIII, Vat II.
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2010, 05:15:16 PM »
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  • I heard that once when a priest was talking about persons who star in racy movies. He said that the persons purgatory will be going on as long as persons are still watching that film or being led into sin due to that film. Heck, I do not know, sounded alright at the time, why would  the actor be in Heaven when done on earth their work is causing persons to fall. If I understood wrong and mispoke I am sorry.

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    « Reply #46 on: July 11, 2010, 05:32:20 PM »
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    In the fall when you see that the frost is going to come, you pick all of your tomatoes.  Some will be ripe and ready to eat, some in various stages of green and some totally green and not of full size.  

    You can use the fully ripe ones right then and put the partially ripe ones in newspaper to finish ripening, but the immature and totally green ones you throw away.  Heaven, purgatory and hell.


    I always thought you could make fried green tomatoes with those totally green ones. Analogies are always difficult.  :smile:
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


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    « Reply #47 on: July 11, 2010, 05:37:52 PM »
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  • Not the ones that haven't matured far enough.  There is just nothing to be done with them.
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    « Reply #48 on: July 11, 2010, 05:42:35 PM »
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  • Let's stick with Jesus' analogy then.  What if you have only produced two small figs and the rest of you is barren.
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    Fulton Sheen video praising John XXIII, Vat II.
    « Reply #49 on: July 12, 2010, 11:40:21 AM »
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    The cult of personality may be at fault here. Both Sheen and Lefebvre suffered from it. Extract any engaging idiosycracies and see what you have left that can guide future Catholics. "Don't send your children to Catholic schools" is a favourite one, as is "Rome hosts a new religion". But we have to ask ourselves whether these are mere slogans used when projecting personal political strategies and massive egos. There were certainly many contradictions to disappoint the eager fan.


    People that are engaged in the cultish behaviour of worshiping their idols (be it JPII, Sheen or ABL) are not capable of objective or reasonable thought.


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    « Reply #50 on: July 12, 2010, 11:44:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: Dawn
    I heard that once when a priest was talking about persons who star in racy movies. He said that the persons purgatory will be going on as long as persons are still watching that film or being led into sin due to that film. Heck, I do not know, sounded alright at the time, why would  the actor be in Heaven when done on earth their work is causing persons to fall. If I understood wrong and mispoke I am sorry.


    An SSPX priest once gave a sermon about something like what you are referring to here.  He called it the "ripple effect."  He was alluding to the fact that whatever good or evil you do has long-term effects, and only when you die will you know the extent of the effects.  But he didn't say that this continually affected your stay in purgatory.  I think it would have been all taken into account at your particular judgment since everything is present to Our Lord - the "Eternal Present."

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    « Reply #51 on: July 12, 2010, 08:57:22 PM »
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  • Yes, there's temporal punishment due for all the consequences of our sins even when the guilt has been remitted.

    There might in fact be some sense that there's a temporal aspect to Purgatory that's tied into time on earth.  It's very hard to say.


     

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