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Fulton Sheen video praising John XXIII, Vat II.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2009, 06:00:34 PM »
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    Fulton Sheen video praising John XXIII, Vat II.
    « Reply #16 on: November 04, 2009, 02:45:59 PM »
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    It is a shame Bishop Sheen went down the tubes. He had a powerful impact in the 50's. Supporting the party line is dangerous to the soul.


    Even Sedevacantist Fr. Noel Barbara considered John XXIII a true Pope and wrote his reasons in careful analysis. Sheen to my knowledge was not addressing what he did not like about Vatican II, nor addressing what unfolded in the post-conciliar. He spoke piously of some lovable personality traits of a Pope. Nor is it absolutely clear that what Paul VI finally  midwifed is what John would have wanted, is it?
    WipeO my Typos and may the good God  bless thee. Spiritual eyes,  not the physical, buys, however hard one tries.


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    « Reply #17 on: November 04, 2009, 03:16:29 PM »
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  • Sheen was just as big of a phoney as our poster Belloc. The former was close to the 32 Mason Schuler( Crystal 'Cathedral').

    Schuler is an MK Ultra programmer big time.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Fulton Sheen video praising John XXIII, Vat II.
    « Reply #18 on: November 04, 2009, 04:48:29 PM »
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  • The v2 Belloc has said in another discussion that Catholics are real Jews. Why am I not surprised at this? Besides Sheen here are a few other gems from Belloc

    1-- Savanarola was not a heretic
    2-- St Luke was a Judaic
    3-- Fr Torqumada was a Judaic

    All false assertions
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #19 on: November 04, 2009, 05:17:46 PM »
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  • Speak for your self Belloc as I am a Roman Catholic-- not a jew.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #20 on: November 04, 2009, 05:53:22 PM »
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  • JustaCatholic said:

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    Even Sedevacantist Fr. Noel Barbara considered John XXIII a true Pope and wrote his reasons in careful analysis. Sheen to my knowledge was not addressing what he did not like about Vatican II, nor addressing what unfolded in the post-conciliar. He spoke piously of some lovable personality traits of a Pope.


    Father Noel Barbara, who I usually like, was a sedeprivationist.  I'm disappointed if this is true.  Perhaps John XXIII never taught heresy from the Magisterium.  I'd have to see what Father Barbara wrote.  But I don't consider even Pius XII a Pope because he taught NFP, and if John XXIII went along with it he was no Pope.

    Sheen, as you'd know if you read the transcribed quote and watched the video, praises the "aggorniamento" of VII explicitly.  Speaking rhapsodsically of how communists, Buddhists, Protestants et al. were let into the Council does not fit my definition of "pious."  He also was a fan of Teilhard de Chardin.  And speaking of NFP, Sheen writes the foreword to a modernist "theology" book I have that teaches it, Medical Ethics by McFadden.

    And Theresa, that you are shocked when I say you don't get on the TV without the say-so of the Jews shocks me.  My delicate sensibilities are very much offended as they often are by your posts, which are models of blissful denial.  Granted, you are in Novus Ordo and some brainwashing is expected, but then why come to a traditional website and act all nonplussed to find traditional Catholics, who are for the most part aware of Jewish and Masonic perfidy?

    A simple Internet search will prove this fact about Jewish control of Hollywood which is not hidden.  They own and always have owned the film and television studios in America.  How can any progress be made when people can't even take the time to do two minutes of research?  It's not like you have to go to the library and look through microfiche.  Do an Internet search, "Hollywood" and "Jews."

    Joel Stein, L.A. Times, indulging in a little revelation of the method:

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    "A poll finds more Americans disagree with the statement that 'Jews control Hollywood.' But here's one Jew who doesn't.
    By Joel Stein

    I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood."


    They also run your so-called church as Montini was Jewish, and Wojtyla was rumored to be Jewish as well, hence the "outreach" to the Jews and the Holocaustery and statements like "The Old Covenant has never been revoked."  

    But if you enjoy being taunted to your face as dumb by Jews and ingesting all of their lies taught to you in the Judeo-Freemasonic VII "church," then by all means, continue!  I personally do not mind being mocked or disbelieved or even persecuted by Jews, as the servant is not greater than his Master, and Jesus was crucified by them -- but I will not have my soul stolen by them in the name of "charity" to my "separated brethren."  I don't have brethren who reject Jesus Christ.
    As I was a new convert when posting here, my posts are often full of error, even unwitting heresy and rash judgment, all of which I renounce, and all my writings are best avoided -- MDLS

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    « Reply #21 on: November 04, 2009, 06:25:19 PM »
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    And Theresa, that you are shocked when I say you don't get on the TV without the say-so of the Jews shocks me.  My delicate sensibilities are very much offended as they often are by your posts, which are models of blissful denial.  Granted, you are in Novus Ordo and some brainwashing is expected, but then why come to a traditional website and act all nonplussed to find traditional Catholics, who are for the most part aware of Jewish and Masonic perfidy?


    Raoul, you're not a traditional Catholic.  By your own admission, you are outside of the Catholic Church period.  You seem to be just a very unhappy person.  Why do you give people so much power over your emotions?

    Teresa
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    « Reply #22 on: November 05, 2009, 12:14:14 PM »
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  • I think Raoul is very well meaning, but very confused and right now a reed twisting in the wind.......to and fro.....some likely bad influences on him.....

    Merely supporting NFP does not make Pius XII unfit for Papacy or somehow, losing it.....NFP much misunderstood and much abused.....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    Fulton Sheen video praising John XXIII, Vat II.
    « Reply #23 on: November 05, 2009, 02:47:04 PM »
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    "Raoul, you're not a traditional Catholic.  By your own admission, you are outside of the Catholic Church period.  You seem to be just a very unhappy person.  Why do you give people so much power over your emotions?

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    « Reply #24 on: July 09, 2010, 10:10:02 PM »
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  • When I was a kid (not raised in a Catholic family but ethnically Italian-American, preceding two+ generations had nothing to do with the Church, parents half-heartedly involved with Presbyterianism), I remember my father having Bp. Sheen's show going on the television.  At the time I recall thinking that Sheen was a crowdpleaser, a ham actor, not anyone much worth watching.

    Heard considerably more recently from NY Catholics who followed  Sheen's career that many of the  traditionally oriented faithful were very well aware of his eventual sellout to the NO.   Although even they considered him originally a 'wonderful preacher', an 'outstanding Catholic personality', and all that jazz.

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    « Reply #25 on: July 09, 2010, 10:25:12 PM »
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  • I still enjoy Sheens tapes but I will admit I was so disappointed when I found out he followed into Vatican II, but then so did I.  I left Vatican II in 1982, I like to think if Sheen lived long enough he would have left too.  

    But what do I know,  I still have his tapes and listen to his talks.  Some of them are very good, he has a gift of tongue, in my opinion.  



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    « Reply #26 on: July 10, 2010, 06:04:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: innocenza
    When I was a kid (not raised in a Catholic family but ethnically Italian-American, preceding two+ generations had nothing to do with the Church, parents half-heartedly involved with Presbyterianism), I remember my father having Bp. Sheen's show going on the television.  At the time I recall thinking that Sheen was a crowdpleaser, a ham actor, not anyone much worth watching.

    Heard considerably more recently from NY Catholics who followed  Sheen's career that many of the  traditionally oriented faithful were very well aware of his eventual sellout to the NO.   Although even they considered him originally a 'wonderful preacher', an 'outstanding Catholic personality', and all that jazz.



    These are my sentiments as well. I mean truly, how in the world does anyone think a Catholic speaking the truths of the faith would be number 1 in telelvision anywhere? I had just talked about Sheen to my priest lst time he visited.
    And, your family is just like mine. My mothers's family is Italian, I would be the third generation here. And,like yours, they all watched Sheen faithfully, the ones that are alive still quote him. And, most of them had left the Church and found nothing odd in the fact that they had left. So, what were they learning from those television shows about being a Catholic and fufillng the duties of the Church?

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    « Reply #27 on: July 10, 2010, 08:57:46 AM »
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  • I used to listen to Sheen a lot, too, and read his works.  I turned my back on him when I heard him praising Kissinger and his meditation room.  Some things just turn your stomach.
    +RIP
    Please pray for the repose of her soul.

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    « Reply #28 on: July 10, 2010, 10:02:52 AM »
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    I heard him praising Kissinger and his meditation room.  
    That would be a problem.

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    « Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 10:07:01 AM »
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  • It was for me, Elizabeth, so I fixed it.  No more Sheen.
    +RIP
    Please pray for the repose of her soul.


     

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