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Offline LaramieHirsch

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FSSP Aggression towards the SSPX
« on: May 25, 2016, 04:30:10 AM »
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  • Okay, I guess I'll share it with you folks.  Seemed to make a splash in other quarters, why not share it with my colleagues here?

    So, I wrote this post.  It's basically a no-nonsense look at the fact that the FSSP has demonstrated aggression towards the SSPX.  I threw it together because I couldn't find any articles like it on the internet.  So, anyone who's had to deal with an FSSP priest giving them grief, perhaps this post over at homebase will serve as a comfort for you.  

    (Bear in mind, folks, I only began attending SSPX last fall.  I know it's an article about 10 years too late.)

    http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-fssp-harbors-aggressive-resentment.html

    I hope it serves you well.




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    FSSP Aggression towards the SSPX
    « Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 09:51:09 PM »
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  • I have observed this personally.  I grew up in an SSPX chapel and my family left because a priest kept making up excuses to deny some of us certain sacraments (the chapel had a nasty political situation).   We went to the startup FSSP chapel for a few years.  When I reached adulthood and tried to socialize with some of the people I was shocked at the sheer animosity towards the SSPX.  Most of it was from former Novus Ordo Catholics who, in an effort to "fit in", started dressing like American 19th century protestants, rejecting modern medicine, and reading up on geocentrist and flat earth conspiracy theories.  These same people held on to the belief that Lefebrve and Fellay were stubborn schismatics, all SSPX confessions were invalid, and that my Confirmation at the hands of an SSPX bishop somehow did not count.

    You'd think the FSSP would be warmer to the SSPX, but some of their priests have a serious case of ultra-ultramontanism that they try to reconcile with traditionalism.  Some FSSP faithful want to strut around with a superiority complex over the "Novus Ordo" Catholics while simultaneously doing the same against the "schismatic" SSPX.  It just doesn't work.

    That said, I've known many good priests and and not so good priests in both fraternities.  We always have to be careful not to over-generalize.

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    FSSP Aggression towards the SSPX
    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2016, 03:54:20 AM »
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  • After posting that article, I've been amazed--startled, really--at the number of personal stories coming from SSPX chapel laity.

    I don't think that too many people have been asked about their experiences with hostile FSSP priests.  But we all knew they were out there.  

    Also, I'm equally amazed at the glib nasty resistance I've been reading from folks who attend the FSSP Masses.  They really seem to reflect their masters well.  

    The aggression is there, to be sure.  
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    FSSP Aggression towards the SSPX
    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2016, 04:29:21 AM »
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  • Yeah, Fr. Ripperger does not hold back on the SSPX. That's too bad because I genuinely like some of the talks he's given over the years. Ironically, with all this turmoil occurring within the SSPX pending regularization, the FSSP is probably as upset about it as the Resistance is! I can't help but feel that their chagrin serves as one tiny bright spot in the maelstrom. Will they now recognize that trying to play by the Vatican's rules is like building a house on sand? Maybe we'll get a few to genuinely reconsider what Archbishop Lefebvre was trying to do and what he was truly fighting against.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    FSSP Aggression towards the SSPX
    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2016, 06:25:41 AM »
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  • I think part of it is the personal guilt (or pride) of having known that they accepted the Council and an untenable position.
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