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Franks 1st Visit to His Brothers at Synagogue of Satan
« on: January 17, 2016, 03:19:48 PM »
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  • As a layman in Argentina he certainly attended the synagogue. This is his first (public) visit under the alias of Frank.

    He condemned the so called Holocaust, "anti-semitism"...promoted dialogue, brotherhood .. :sleep:

    Reuters (January 17, 2016)

    Frank at the Den of Thieves said:

    "The violence of man against man is in contradiction with any religion worthy of this name, in particular the three great monotheistic religions."

    "The Shoah teaches us that we need the maximum vigilance in order to intervene quickly in defense of human dignity and peace," Francis said, using the Hebrew term for the Holocaust.

    The revolution in Catholic-Jewish relations began 50 years ago with when a document by the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council repudiated the concept of collective Jewish guilt for the death of Jesus and called for inter-religious dialogue.

    Under the late Pope John Paul, the first pontiff to visit a synagogue, the Vatican established diplomatic relations with Israel.

    Last month the Vatican issued a major document saying Catholics should not try to convert Jews.

    On Sunday Francis called for the "rediscovery of the Jewish roots of Christianity" and repeated an appeal for Catholic to "say 'no' to every form of anti-Semitism".

    "Jews and Christians must, therefore, feel like brothers united by the same God and by a rich common spiritual heritage," he said.
    "More souls go to Hell because of sins of the flesh than for any other reason." -Our Lady of Fatima, to Jacinta Marto

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    Franks 1st Visit to His Brothers at Synagogue of Satan
    « Reply #1 on: January 17, 2016, 07:59:37 PM »
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  • Last month the Vatican issued a major document saying Catholics should not try to convert Jews.

    Heresy and a false teaching not backed up by scripture nor the Church.
    Never mind Vatican II and the 1984 Catholic Catechism.

    Go listen to Dr. Robert Sungenis on ISOC in the Spirit of Chartres:
    Jews, Gentiles, and the End of the World. Playing now.
    He will answer most of our questions in this one hour talk on the
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    Franks 1st Visit to His Brothers at Synagogue of Satan
    « Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 08:12:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: ranlare


    Under the late Pope John Paul, the first pontiff to visit a synagogue, the Vatican established diplomatic relations with Israel.



    Is this true?
    John Paul I, during one whole month of reign, managed to even visit the synagogue?
    Amazing.

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    « Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016, 10:23:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Desmond
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    Under the late Pope John Paul, the first pontiff to visit a synagogue, the Vatican established diplomatic relations with Israel.


    Is this true?
    John Paul I, during one whole month of reign, managed to even visit the synagogue?
    Amazing.


    It seems to me they could have said Saint John Paul II, not "Pope John Paul."  
    At the time, it was said he was the first pope to physically enter a synagogue.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 08:21:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    Under the late Pope John Paul, the first pontiff to visit a synagogue, the Vatican established diplomatic relations with Israel.


    Is this true?
    John Paul I, during one whole month of reign, managed to even visit the synagogue?
    Amazing.


    It seems to me they could have said Saint John Paul II, not "Pope John Paul."  
    At the time, it was said he was the first pope to physically enter a synagogue.

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    Yes, I thought JPII was the first also..


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    « Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 01:37:23 AM »
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  • Below is a Vatican Radio-provided translation of Pope Francis’ address during his visit to Rome’s Synagogue yesterday:

    I’m happy to be here today with you in this Synagogue. I thank Dr. Di Segni, Mrs  Durighello and Mr Gattegna for their kind words. And  I thank you all for your warm welcome, thank you! Tada Toda Rabba, thank you!

    During my first visit to this synagogue as Bishop of Rome, I wish to express to you and to extend to all Jewish communities, the fraternal greetings of peace of the whole Catholic Church.

    Our relations are very close to my heart. When in Buenos Aires I used to go to the synagogues and meet the communities gathered there, I used to follow Jewish festivities and commemorations and give thanks to the Lord who gives us life and accompanies us on the path of history. Over time, a spiritual bond has been created which has favoured the birth of a genuine friendship and given life to a shared commitment. In interreligious dialogue it is essential that we meet as brothers and sisters before our Creator and to Him give praise, that we respect and appreciate each other and try to collaborate. In Jewish-Christian dialogue there is a unique and special bond thanks to the Jewish roots of Christianity: Jews and Christians must therefore feel as brothers, united by the same God and by a rich common spiritual patrimony (cf. Declaration. Nostra Aetate, 4 ), upon which to build the future.

    With this visit I follow in the footsteps of my predecessors. Pope John Paul II came here thirty years ago, on 13 April 1986; and Pope Benedict XVI was amongt you six years ago. On that occasion John Paul II coined the beautiful description “elder brothers”, and in fact you are our brothers and sisters in the faith. We all belong to one family, the family of God, who accompanies and protects us, His people. Together, as Jews and as Catholics, we are called to take on our responsibilities towards this city, giving first of all a spiritual contribution, and favouring the resolution of various current problems. It is my hope that closeness, mutual understanding and respect between our two  communities continue to grow. Thus, it is significant that I have come among you today, on January 17, the day when the Italian Episcopal Conference celebrates the “Day of dialogue between Catholics and Jews.”

    We have just commemorated the 50th anniversary of the Second Vatican Council’s Declaration “Nostra Aetate” which made possible the systematic dialogue between the Catholic Church and Judaism. On 28 October last, in St. Peter’s Square, I was able to greet a large number of Jewish representatives to whom I said “Deserving of special gratitude to God is the veritable transformation of Christian-Jewish relations in these 50 years. Indifference and opposition have changed into cooperation and benevolence. From enemies and strangers we have become friends and brothers. The Council, with the Declaration Nostra Aetate, has indicated the way: “yes” to rediscovering Christianity’s Jewish roots; “no” to every form of anti-Semitism and blame for every wrong, discrimination and persecution deriving from it.” Nostra Aetate explicitly defined theologically for the first time the Catholic Church’s relations with Judaism. Of course it did not solve all the theological issues that affect us, but we it provided an important stimulus for further necessary reflections. In this regard, on 10 December 2015, the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews published a new document that addresses theological issues that have emerged in recent decades since the promulgation of “Nostra Aetate”. In fact, the theological dimension of Jewish-Catholic dialogue deserves to be more thorough, and I wish to encourage all those involved in this dialogue to continue in this direction, with discernment and perseverance. From a theological point of view, it is clear there is an inseparable bond between Christians and Jews. Christians, to be able to understand themselves, cannot not refer to their Jewish roots, and the Church, while professing salvation through faith in Christ, recognizes the irrevocability of the Covenant and God’s constant and faithful love for Israel .

    Along with theological issues, we must not lose sight of the big challenges facing the world today.  That of an integral ecology is now a priority, and us Christians and Jews can and must offer humanity the message of the Bible regarding the care of creation. Conflicts, wars, violence and injustices open deep wounds in humanity and call us to strengthen a commitment for peace and justice. Violence by man against man is in contradiction with any religion worthy of that name, and in particular with the three great monotheistic religions. Life is sacred, a gift of God. The fifth commandment of the Decalogue says: “Thou shalt not kill” (Exodus 20:13). God is the God of life, and always wants to promote and defend it; and we, created in his image and likeness, are called upon to do the same. Every human being, as a creature of God, is our brother, regardless of his or her origin or religious affiliation. Each person must be viewed with favour, just as God does, who offers his merciful hand to all, regardless of their faith and of their belonging, and who cares for those who most need him: the poor, the sick, the marginalized , the helpless. Where life is in danger, we are called even more to protect it. Neither violence nor death will have the last word before God,  the God of love and life. We must pray with insistence to help us put into practice the logic of peace, of reconciliation, of forgiveness, of life, in Europe, in the Holy Land, in the Middle East, in Africa and elsewhere in the world.

    In its history, the Jewish people has had to experience violence and persecution, to the point of  extermination of European Jews during the Holocaust. Six million people, just because they belonged to the Jewish people, were victims of the most inhumane barbarity perpetrated in the name of an ideology that wanted to replace God with man. On October 16, 1943, over a thousand men, women and children Rome’s Jewish community were deported to Auschwitz. Today I wish to remember them in a special way: their suffering, their fear, their tears must never be forgotten. And the past must serve as a lesson for the present and for the future. The Holocaust teaches us that utmost vigilance is always needed to be able to take prompt action in defense of human dignity and peace. I would like to express my closeness to every witness of the Holocaust who is still living; and I address a special greeting to those who are present here today.

    Dear brothers, we really have to be thankful for all that has been realized in the last fifty years, because between us mutual understanding, mutual trust and friendship have grown and deepened. Let us pray together to the Lord, to lead the way to a better future. God has plans of salvation for us, as the prophet Jeremiah says: “I know well the plans I have in mind for you—oracle of the Lord – plans for your welfare and not for woe, so as to give you a future of hope” (Jer 29 , 11). “The LORD bless you and keep you! The LORD let his face shine upon you, and be gracious to you! The LORD look upon you kindly and give you peace!  (cf. 6.24 to 26 Nm). Shalom Alechem!

    http://zenit.org/articles/popes-address-at-romes-synagogue/

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    Franks 1st Visit to His Brothers at Synagogue of Satan
    « Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 09:08:10 AM »
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  • Your correct Poche,  The Synagogue of Satan.

    The head Rabbi from the Roman Synagogue died recently. I can guess
    where his soul went to.
    I doubt that he converted on his deathbed thanks to the JPII and BXVI.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 20, 2016, 11:19:49 PM »
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    Your correct Poche,  The Synagogue of Satan.

    The head Rabbi from the Roman Synagogue died recently. I can guess
    where his soul went to.
    I doubt that he converted on his deathbed thanks to the JPII and BXVI.


    You could be wrong. Only God knows the inner workings of the human heart.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 20, 2016, 11:50:06 PM »
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    Your correct Poche,  The Synagogue of Satan.

    The head Rabbi from the Roman Synagogue died recently. I can guess
    where his soul went to.
    I doubt that he converted on his deathbed thanks to the JPII and BXVI.


    You could be wrong. Only God knows the inner workings of the human heart.


    Poche

    I disagree with you. I am not am optimist. Most likely the Head Jewish
    Rabbi of the Rome Synagogue who recently died has gone to eternal damnation.
    The Synagogue of Satan is the doorway to HELL.

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    « Reply #9 on: January 21, 2016, 03:58:25 AM »
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    Your correct Poche,  The Synagogue of Satan.

    The head Rabbi from the Roman Synagogue died recently. I can guess
    where his soul went to.
    I doubt that he converted on his deathbed thanks to the JPII and BXVI.


    You could be wrong. Only God knows the inner workings of the human heart.


    Poche

    I disagree with you. I am not am optimist. Most likely the Head Jewish
    Rabbi of the Rome Synagogue who recently died has gone to eternal damnation.
    The Synagogue of Satan is the doorway to HELL.


    It is not a question of optimism or pessimism. It is a question of God and His judgment. Unless you have a special revelation then we do not know what that became of him.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 21, 2016, 04:17:29 AM »
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    Your correct Poche,  The Synagogue of Satan.

    The head Rabbi from the Roman Synagogue died recently. I can guess
    where his soul went to.
    I doubt that he converted on his deathbed thanks to the JPII and BXVI.


    You could be wrong. Only God knows the inner workings of the human heart.


    Poche

    I disagree with you. I am not am optimist. Most likely the Head Jewish
    Rabbi of the Rome Synagogue who recently died has gone to eternal damnation.
    The Synagogue of Satan is the doorway to HELL.


    There is anecdotal evidence that salvation does come to those who were not recognized as part of the Church;

    The English woman, who was drowned at Mont Michel, went straight to Heaven. She had the necessary contrition at the moment of death and at the same time the baptism of desire. All this happened through the intervention of St. Michael. What a happy shipwreck!

    http://www.purgatory.ca/treasury-manuscript.php


     

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