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Offline gladius_veritatis

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FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
« on: April 26, 2021, 11:37:09 AM »
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  • Picture, if you can, a SINGLE being with TWO indistinct, mysteriously "fused" (i.e., not actually separate) bodies yet just ONE head.

    One "part" of this grotesque entity is supposedly Immaculate, even enjoying the Divine protection in all that pertains to Her essential functions.  The other "part" (indistinct portion?) is man-made garbage, full of theoretical and practical error to the extent that hundreds of millions of souls are brought to the precipice of eternal destruction.

    These "two bodies" are somehow distinct enough to be discussed as two, yet "united" enough to also be spoken of as neither truly separate nor distinct things.

    What is more, this mysterious and indescribable "being" still maintains Divine Purity throughout the (indistinct and apparently indistinguishable to human eyes) portion of Its body, despite the presence and influence of the arguably-satanic portion to which It is somehow attached. 

    The clinical analysis provided by various spiritual physicians, as it were, is that the hitherto unquestionably-Immaculate-in-every-way Body has come down with a nasty case of "spiritual AIDS."  Ironically, during this era of the non-virus Cooties-19, many have discovered that nothing at all was ever scientifically demonstrated with respect to HIV, AIDS, or any causative connection between them.  Put bluntly, none of the modern "viruses" has actually been proved to exist AT ALL.  AIDS, too, is an absolute fiction, easily and completely explained by other, verifiable phenomena.

    Imagine the perfect creature.  It is easy to do so because She exists and is the Holy Mother of God.  Now, imagine she has mysteriously contracted AIDS (or whatever debilitating, disgusting "disease" you fear most).  Making matters immeasurably worse, She proceeds to use Her staggering influence to destroy the lives and souls of everyone with whom She comes in contact.  Not only is it hard (impossible) to imagine, the very notion fills even the barely-pious mind and heart with horror; however, this is exactly what some unaccredited spiritual physicians would have us believe has happened to Holy Church, the Immaculate Spouse.  What was once and forever pure is now "sharing" ONE head with the Whore of Babylon.  The Whore-Head voraciously devours the children of the Spouse-Head.  Stranger still, during this entire period, the actions of the purported Spouse-Head never protect or benefit the Spouse-children, not even once.  The only available evidence regarding the ONE head is related to the endlessly destructive actions of the Whore-Head.

    Godspeed during these insane days.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #1 on: April 26, 2021, 11:55:39 AM »
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  • To quote Montini, a.k.a. Paul VI:

    "We, more than anyone, have the Cult of Man."
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #2 on: April 26, 2021, 12:10:38 PM »
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  • Yikes! Quite an analogy.... yes the Holy and indefectible RCC must be a visible Church as visibility is one of it's marks.... can anyone see Her in Rome? She can't be as the Vll parasite has devoured it's host. A few uninfected must have escaped...

    ( Maybe Cardinal Zen and the Chinese that got thrown under the bus by Bergoglio might know)

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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #3 on: April 26, 2021, 12:55:42 PM »
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  • Given that the movements of this entity are governed by a brain, the Two-Church theory is like schizophrenia, or as if this Frankenchurch had two brains in its skull, with one hemisphere pulling in one direction, and the other in another.  Part of this schizo beast is trying to move the body in the Traditional direction, and other in the Conciliar one.

    That's actually along the lines of my objection.  We can speak perhaps about a cancer in the body, or eve some parasites ... as when you have bad members of the Church, heretics, evildoers, etc.  But what is it that defines the formality, the substance or the essence, of this creature, other than the brain or the head, that which governs the members.  Two-Church theory tries to pretend that the head is just another member of the body.

    With +Tissier's analogy that the head is also at the same time the member of another body, we have the Frankenhead grafted on as the member of some other entity, while at the same time trying to govern the body of the Church, so that we're talking about some monstrous chimera.  So imagine a being that has the head of another being grafted into its body, and then this head controls some other body.  THAT is what Two-Church theory really looks like.  I think that there are some old black-and-white-era horror movies depicting such things.

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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #4 on: April 26, 2021, 01:33:40 PM »
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  • “That there be at the present time two Churches with the one and the same Paul VI at the head of both, we can do nothing about it, we are not inventing anything, we remark that such is the case.”

    Jean Madiran (from the special issue of Itinéraires April 1977: La condamnation sauvage de Mgr Lefebvre, p. 113-115)
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2021, 01:34:49 PM »
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  • Gustavo Corçao in the periodical Itinéraires (November 1974) and then Father Bruckberger in L’Aurore (March 18, 1976) publicly pointed out:

    “The religious crisis no longer consists, as in the 16th century, in having simultaneously two or three Popes for one Church. The crisis today is to have one Pope for two Churches, the Catholic Church and the post-conciliar Church.”
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #6 on: April 26, 2021, 01:39:10 PM »
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  • The point of these last two posts being that, from the beginning, from Corcau and Madiran, to Tissier and Lefebvre, all of Tradition has understood the problem in this way.

    Except for the sedes, naturally.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #7 on: April 26, 2021, 03:13:51 PM »
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  • The point of these last two posts being that, from the beginning, from Corcau and Madiran, to Tissier and Lefebvre, all of Tradition has understood the problem in this way.

    Except for the sedes, naturally.

    The point of your last two posts, and every post you've made on this subject, is that you're incapable of debating the subject on its theological merits and are capable only of copying and pasting.  This is total desperation from R&R, being unable to recognize the difference between formal and material and that the only way one material entity can be two things is if they're formally distinct.  That's basic Thomistic (and Aristotelean) ontology.  So you can say that he's materially the head of the Catholic Church but formally the head of the Conciliar Church.  That's the only way to pull it off, and that leads to sedeprivationism.  To say that he's formally head of the Conciliar Church and formally the head of the Catholic Church at the same time is a total absurdity and defies the principle of non-contradiction.


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    Re: FrankenChurch and Spiritual AIDS?
    « Reply #8 on: April 26, 2021, 04:09:16 PM »
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  • The point of your last two posts, and every post you've made on this subject, is that you're incapable of debating the subject on its theological merits and are capable only of copying and pasting.  This is total desperation from R&R, being unable to recognize the difference between formal and material and that the only way one material entity can be two things is if they're formally distinct.  That's basic Thomistic (and Aristotelean) ontology.  So you can say that he's materially the head of the Catholic Church but formally the head of the Conciliar Church.  That's the only way to pull it off, and that leads to sedeprivationism.  To say that he's formally head of the Conciliar Church and formally the head of the Catholic Church at the same time is a total absurdity and defies the principle of non-contradiction.
    Ladislaus-

    This is total Sede-Feeneyite desperation.

    When the pope teaches truth, he is Catholic; when he teaches error, he is conciliar.

    Rather than a head with two bodies as you and GV imagine, he is a split personality (sometimes Catholic, and sometimes conciliar).

    It’s really not that difficult.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."