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Franciss new teaching: Jesus was only pretending!
« on: December 03, 2013, 11:45:11 AM »
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  • This is unbelievable!

    Here is a Teaching that is New!!! JESUS IS ONLY PRETENDING!!!

    Please Pray for the Bishop of Rome to Resign or for God To Remove Him for the sake of us poor sinners!

    Has anyone ever heard previous papal teaching suggesting that when the Lord appears to be angry with his disciples that He was only 'pretending'?

    It is a strange thing for the Vicar of Christ to say and opens up a range of questions regarding when Our Lord was being serious with His disciples and when He was 'pretending'.

    Francis is clearly not suited for the Job!

    My understanding of Church's understanding of the Gospel accounts of the Lord Jesus and His interaction with His Apostles and disciples was that there was no pretense in Him. There was nothing fake, deceitful or anything that could be interpreted as 'pretense' in the Lord Jesus Christ. Not before all ages, no then, not now, not ever.

    I do wish the Holy Father would take more care over his homilies. Even the notion of the Lord Jesus 'pretending' or 'faking' anything would lead faithful Catholics loyal to His Holiness to say, 'Here is a teaching that is new...'

    For if the Lord 'pretended' to be angry at times in His ministry on Earth, what else would He have 'pretended' to His Apostles and disciples?


    Pope Francis: Use intelligence to understand signs of the times

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-use-intelligence-to-understand-signs-of-the-times/

    Vatican City, Nov 29, 2013 / 09:41 am (CNA/EWTN News).- During his daily Mass, Pope Francis spoke of the importance of man's intellect in understanding the Lord, and cautioned those present against “restricted” thought which keeps us focused on ourselves.

    “What path does the Lord want? Always with the spirit of intelligence with which to understand the signs of the times. It is beautiful to ask the Lord for this grace,” the Pope said in his Nov. 29 daily homily.

    Pope Francis directed his reflections to those present in the Saint Martha guesthouse of the Vatican, where he has chosen to reside.

    He began by recalling of how in the Gospels, the Lord taught his disciples to pay attention to the signs of the times, which the Pharisees failed to understand, emphasizing how one must think not only with the head, but also with the heart and the spirit in order to fully comprehend “way of God in history.”

    “In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to when the disciples do not understand him,” the Pope explained, adding that at Emmaus Jesus says, “'How foolish and slow of heart.'”

    “He who does not understand the things of God is such a person,” noted the pontiff, emphasizing how “The Lord wants us to understand what happens, what happens in my heart, what happens in my life, what happens in the world, in history.”

    “What is the meaning of what is happening now? These are the signs of the times!”

    “On the other hand,” he continued, “the spirit of the world gives us other propositions, because the spirit of the world does not want a community: it wants a mob, thoughtless, without freedom.”

    Explaining that while the spirit of the world tries to lead us down a “restricted path,” the Apostle Paul warns that this spirit “treats us as thought we lack the ability to think for ourselves; it treats us like people who are not free.”

    “Restricted thought, equal thought, weak thought, a thought so widespread. The spirit of the world does not want us to ask ourselves before God: ‘But why, why this other, why did this happen?’”

    Or, the Pope observed, this worldly spirit “offers a prêt-à-porter ('ready to wear') way of thinking, according to personal taste: ‘I think as I like!’”

    While there are many who say that this attitude is ok, the Pontiff noted, the spirit of the world does not want “what Jesus asks of us: free thought, the thought of a man and a women who are part of the people of God, and salvation is exactly this!”

    Pope Francis then encouraged the Mass attendees to think of the prophets who proclaimed that “You were not my people, now I say my people,” stating that “so says the Lord.”

    “And this is salvation: to make us people, God’s people, to have freedom.”

    Reflecting on how Jesus asks us to “think freely…in order to understand what happens,” the Pope stressed that “we are not alone,” and that “we need the Lord’s help” in order to “understand the signs of the times.”

    In order to do this, the Pope went on to say, the Holy Spirit “gives us this present, a gift: the intelligence to understand.”

    Emphasizing how the Lord always wants us to walk along the path of intelligence, Pope Francis highlighted how “it is beautiful to ask the Lord for this grace, who sends us this spirit of intelligence, in order that we avoid weak thought, we do not have a restricted thought and we do not have a thought according to personal preference.”

    We must only have “a thought according to God,” he stated, adding that “with this thought, which is a thought of the mind, of heart, and of soul; with this thought, which is the gift of the Spirit, (we) look for the meaning of things, and to understand the signs of the time well.”

    Bringing his homily to an end, the Pope said that we must ask the Lord for the grace to have “the ability which gives us the spirit” to “understand the signs of the time.”

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Franciss new teaching: Jesus was only pretending!
    « Reply #1 on: December 03, 2013, 05:30:16 PM »
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    “He who does not understand the things of God is such a person,” noted the pontiff, emphasizing how “The Lord wants us to understand what happens, what happens in my heart, what happens in my life, what happens in the world, in history.”

    “What is the meaning of what is happening now? These are the signs of the times!”




    The meaning of what is happening now, understood by what happens in my heart, is what is meant by "the signs of the times," is it?  

    Not according to Pope St. Pius X.  When out of the heart of man springs the notion of God, such that God becomes immanent in man, that is the foundation of the grand sewer of all heresies, which is a far cry from what "the Lord wants us to understand."  

    For those who haven't been following the big news from Vat.II, the "signs of the times" was one of the huge mysteries that was never explained.  At the time, the unclean spirit of Vat.II had us all thinking that it had something to do with nuclear energy, the moon race and being suddenly able to eat meat on Friday (so the Church must have had it wrong for thousands of years).  

    Now, the "signs of the times" are the proud conceits of our hearts (cf. Lk. i. 51)?  

    That's a switch.  But it's not out of a whole different ball-park from the unclean spirit of Vat.II.  Maybe a switch-hitter in the same ball-park?

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    Franciss new teaching: Jesus was only pretending!
    « Reply #2 on: December 17, 2013, 10:02:24 PM »
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  • Read those signs with your intelligence and your reason, those signs of the times, God will help you to see that they are all kosher.


     

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