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Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2025, 06:23:31 PM »
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  • Yes, I am saying that the "dragon" is the first beast described by Fr. Palau. Look at Fr. Palau section 12, "and I saw another very fierce beast rise..." He uses the word "another," meaning he just described the first one, the Dragon.

    The second beast Fr. Palau describes is the beast from the Sea.
    OK. Thank you that makes sense I agree, with the above. 

    So it all checks out with the Apocalypse, now we have to look closer at what the explanation is for this beast... 

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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #106 on: December 18, 2025, 10:23:23 PM »
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  • OK. Thank you that makes sense I agree, with the above.

    So it all checks out with the Apocalypse, now we have to look closer at what the explanation is for this beast...

    Yes, and the basis for that explanation is found in Fr. Palau's book, but also and primarily in Daniel, the Apocalypse and  4 Esdras. All of these works are talking about the same entities and the same events. So we must tease out the essential core of events and put together the unique puzzle pieces that each description provides. Then the picture will come into better focus. 

    I am happy to go through it with you and tell you what I have found.

    The biggest hurdle to overcome is the tendency to think of these apocalyptic scenarios as referring to secular, geo-political events and people. That is fundamentally incorrect. These prophetic works are concerned with the Roman Catholic Church in the time just before the Second Coming.

    The prophetic veil uses the symbols like wars and swords and kings and beasts in a figurative way to hide the fact that the subject matter is the final battle taking place between "the woman" and "the serpent." The woman is at once the faithful remnant Church and the Virgin. The serpent is Satan and his possessed agents working inside the Church to destroy it. These agents are ultimately the Antichrist and False Prophet, but also the antichrists and false prophets who prepare the way for these last demonic manifestations. And these are real people, the Cardinals and Bishops primarily, but also the Popes who allow themselves to be influenced by those demonic Cardinals and Bishops.



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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #107 on: December 19, 2025, 11:26:41 AM »
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  • Yes, and the basis for that explanation is found in Fr. Palau's book, but also and primarily in Daniel, the Apocalypse and  4 Esdras. All of these works are talking about the same entities and the same events. So we must tease out the essential core of events and put together the unique puzzle pieces that each description provides. Then the picture will come into better focus.

    I am happy to go through it with you and tell you what I have found.
    Thank you.

    Here is the full text of the relevant portion (I typed it out so we can work with it):


    -Do you know who this dragon is?



    -Tell me.


    -All is the power of the demons joined in one body in the war against the Church. Those crowned are those demons that attack, tempt and fight the kings and princes of the earth, and when they have overcome anyone with one of the seven vices pictured on the seven heads, they turn their power seen on the horns, against the Woman. Do not be surprised that the demons that possessed the sick persons entrusted to you resist so much. You can see the mystery; all together they form an army for battle; and if one or two of these crowned heads should fall, or  even if many demons fall and the body remains, we gain little; they all must fall, the dragon must fall with its seven heads, and in this battle there must be offered much prayer faith and sacrifice. When the demons fall, the kings who have raised their thrones upon their malice must also fall; and this is such a great revolution in the world that there never has been and never will be another like it.


    Other things he told me which he said I must keep secret; and he added:


    -Look towards the sea.

    12. And I was vigilant at the sight of the sea. And I saw another very fierce beast rise: it had seven heads like ds, like the dragon, with crowns and thorns on the heads. It was like a tiger, with the feet of a bear and the mouth like a lion;its appearance was very horrible. It went towards the dragon who gave it all the strength, spirit and power it could possibly receive. And all the kings and grandees of the earth bowed down and submitted to the beast and adore it. Likewise to the dragon who gave it all its power. And all the people and nations and languages bowing down before the beasts said: Who is like this? Who would dare fight against it?



    13. I was filled with fear and terror looking at this beast and all the powers on earth bowing before it, and the angel said;

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    Do you understand this?


    -No, if you do not explain it I cannot understand.


    -This beast is all the kings and powers of the earth, seduced by the demons, which have shaken off the yoke of the Church and have separated her, and joined to the shaken demons they form one body and they unite in war against the Church and her pontificate. Because they form one body with the dragon. If this falls, that beast must also fall; and so don’t get confused when you see the resistance of the devils in the battle which you fight against them. The dragon and this beast will fall on the same day; keep fighting. The second beast that came out from the sea, that is from the world; it was formed from the heresies, schisms, false religions, and with the help of the bad passions of the world: there it sprung up, there it grew and increased, and there it has reached, as you see, it has come to dominate all kingdoms, peoples, and nations, Turn your eyes to the earth [Rv 13 1-10].


    14. I looked towards the earth and I saw another beast. And this third one was like a lamb; it had the fleece and horns of a lamb, and the inhabitants of the earth believed that it was Christ, the Lamb of God; and I, at first sight, thought the same, but looking carefully, I saw that it had claws like a lion, and teeth like a wolf, and it blasphemed like the dragon, It received power like the beast with the seven heads and with great, marvellous signs made all the inhabitants of the earth adore the first beast.


    -Do you understand the mystery of the second beast the angel asked me.


    -No.


    -That second beast is all the kings who say they are Catholics but are not, and united with one body with the people they govern, they speak like demons against Christ and his Church, and form a league with all the others in the war against God. To these powers, represented in their horns, are united all those Christians who are such only in appearance, but who in reality have neither faith nor true charity; and these are the ones who mixed  with the just, stir up cινιℓ ωαr, which is all the more cruel, because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations; and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without. This beast is the one which makes use of all the arts of magic, associated like the first with the dragon, and produces marvellous cures in the human body; it is the one who hides for the time being in magnetism and spiritualism [Dn. 9 -27, Rv 17, 4: 21-27; Mt 7,15], and the one who when discovered will imitate the mission of the Prophet Elijah and Eunuch with apparent miracles. And with these signs all the peoples of the earth will fall at the feet of the first beast, and no one will escape corruption.


    15. The dragon and these two beasts are but one thing in the spirit of evil. Here you have the power of evil; a power which is outside the temple, and a power within the very sanctuary, united under one banner against God and his Church; the battle is against those three powers. So, these three beasts cannot resist so much, because the three will fall into the abyss on the same day, and at the same hour [Mal 3, 23-24; 2 Kgs 2-11;Lk 3, 37; Heb 11,5]


    16. When the dragon was conquered and cast out from heaven and from the presence of God, an angel clothed with great power came out of the tabernacle. In one hand, he held the keys of the abyss, and in the other, a great chain, and he chained up the dragon and enclosed him in the abyss so that he could not seduce the people any more. The dragon was imprisoned there for a thousand years, and afterwards was freed; when he was free he sought protection from the thrones, crowns, and sceptres and the powerful ones on earth, and by his power and malice two beasts were formed which received power from him.






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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #108 on: December 19, 2025, 02:37:27 PM »
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  • Do you think the following part of Fr. Palau's vision (below) fits the above description:

    4. I looked towards the earth and I saw another beast. And this third one was like a lamb; it had the fleece and horns of a lamb, and the inhabitants of the earth believed that it was Christ, the Lamb of God; and I, at first sight, thought the same, but looking carefully, I saw that it had claws like a lion, and teeth like a wolf, and it blasphemed like the dragon, It received power like the beast with the seven heads and with great, marvellous signs made all the inhabitants of the earth adore the first beast.

    -Do you understand the mystery of the second beast the angel asked me.

    -No.

    -That second beast is all the kings who say they are Catholics but are not, and united with one body with the people they govern, they speak like demons against Christ and his Church, and form a league with all the others in the war against God. To these powers, represented in their horns, are united all those Christians who are such only in appearance, but who in reality have neither faith nor true charity; and these are the ones who mixed  with the just, stir up cινιℓ ωαr, which is all the more cruel, because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations; and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without. This beast is the one which makes use of all the arts of magic, associated like the first with the dragon, and produces marvellous cures in the human body; it is the one who hides for the time being in magnetism and spiritualism [Dn. 9 -27, Rv 17, 4: 21-27; Mt 7,15], and the one who when discovered will imitate the mission of the Prophet Elijah and Eunuch with apparent miracles. And with these signs all the peoples of the earth will fall at the feet of the first beast, and no one will escape corruption.

    https://www.magisterium.com/search/f1856f72-0f17-4585-ad08-150c4bfe60f8


    Notice the last point it makes HERE ^.

    This is one reason Fr. Palau's writings matter. Like you said, "another piece of the puzzle."


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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #109 on: December 19, 2025, 02:55:33 PM »
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  • ^THIS^                                                    


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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #110 on: December 20, 2025, 05:52:24 PM »
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  • Do you think the following part of Fr. Palau's vision (below) fits the above description:

    4. I looked towards the earth and I saw another beast. And this third one was like a lamb; it had the fleece and horns of a lamb, and the inhabitants of the earth believed that it was Christ, the Lamb of God; and I, at first sight, thought the same, but looking carefully, I saw that it had claws like a lion, and teeth like a wolf, and it blasphemed like the dragon, It received power like the beast with the seven heads and with great, marvellous signs made all the inhabitants of the earth adore the first beast.

    -Do you understand the mystery of the second beast the angel asked me.

    -No.

    -That second beast is all the kings who say they are Catholics but are not, and united with one body with the people they govern, they speak like demons against Christ and his Church, and form a league with all the others in the war against God. To these powers, represented in their horns, are united all those Christians who are such only in appearance, but who in reality have neither faith nor true charity; and these are the ones who mixed  with the just, stir up cινιℓ ωαr, which is all the more cruel, because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations; and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without. This beast is the one which makes use of all the arts of magic, associated like the first with the dragon, and produces marvellous cures in the human body; it is the one who hides for the time being in magnetism and spiritualism [Dn. 9 -27, Rv 17, 4: 21-27; Mt 7,15], and the one who when discovered will imitate the mission of the Prophet Elijah and Eunuch with apparent miracles. And with these signs all the peoples of the earth will fall at the feet of the first beast, and no one will escape corruption.

    https://www.magisterium.com/search/f1856f72-0f17-4585-ad08-150c4bfe60f8


    Notice the last point it makes HERE ^.

    This is one reason Fr. Palau's writings matter. Like you said, "another piece of the puzzle."

    Sorry I've been too busy to respond. The first AI quote is close. The Second AI quote is garbage. 

    The Dragon is Satan, as the Apocalypse says. His demons infest people, including people inside the Church.

    The Beast from the Sea (aka "the Beast") is specially referring to the final head (aka "the eighth" of Apoc. 17). But there is a long history of getting up to the final beast (1929-2025). This is where Daniel Chapter 7 comes in. It needs to be read to understand the detail and sequence of the Four Beasts. Then 4 Esdras explains more about the Fourth Beast, the Ten Horns of the Apocalypse, which are described as the Eagle in 4 Esdras. Both books are describing the same final entity: The Eagle is the Council of Cardinal Advisors with the 3 heads (Bergoglio is the big head, Prevost and Parolin are the small heads). They are the final Fourth Beast that is unlike all the others.

    The Beast from the Earth (aka "the False Prophet") is the false prophets who follow Bergoglio who promote the Bergoglian agenda of Synodality. The main False Prophet is the one installed in Rome who speaks seductively to entice people into following the Synodal agenda. This is mainly Prevost, but all bishops as well, because they are all promoting the same agenda.

    The main thing is that the Beasts are INSIDE "the Church," it is describing the hierarchy of the Counterfeit Church. The Harlot is the laity of the Counterfeit Church who follow ("ride") the Beast. 

    The Woman who goes into the wilderness is the remnant faithful, who separate from the Harlot and the Beasts to stay alive spiritually with valid Sacraments until Jesus returns. There is a lot more than this, but best to take it in small bites. 

    If you can give me very specific questions, I tell you how I think it fits with my understanding and provide citations in the texts.

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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #111 on: December 20, 2025, 07:44:31 PM »
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  • The first AI quote is close. The Second AI quote is garbage.
    Yes. I was only throwing it up so you could see WHY it was so trashy (it was from Magisterium AI - which is biased). As soon as it detects what it perceives as the magisterium coming under attack it freezes and just keeps saying, "no", "no", "no"... :laugh1:


    The main thing is that the Beasts are INSIDE "the Church," it is describing the hierarchy of the Counterfeit Church. The Harlot is the laity of the Counterfeit Church who follow ("ride") the Beast.

    Now look at this:


    I am going to abandon Rome. I will take away the throne of the pontiff and deliver the city to the power of the devils and the revolution. Rome will no longer be the centre of the religion of Jesus. I will destroy and behead its priests and religious and again I will organize the enemy of Christ and his Church. The throne of the supreme pontiff will not return because it will be transferred to another place.”



    4. I could hardly believe what I was seeing the angel added: “Rome will be punished severely and the day is at hand, the day of weeping, mourning and grieving of blood and of fire and so that you will see how just is the heavenly vengeance, come, climb up to the peak of this mountain and from here you will see the abominations introduced in the holy place predicted by Prophet Daniel.”


    Full of consternation, fear and terror, my hair bristled, my flesh horrified, I climbed up to the peak of the mountain: “Look carefully and watch what is there in the sanctuary, scrutinize it, do not speak and keep the secret; the mystery of iniquity is already consummated, I am going to punish the culprit and the blood of the just will appease the wrath of God.”


    5. I was praying earnestly for the Church and the voice answered: “The prayers and supplications for the holy Church are heard and accepted by God. Do not pray for Rome because the decree of God is irrevocable, the punishment of the culprit and the patience of the martyrs will bring back to the holy Church her liberty, her glory and her splendor




















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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #112 on: December 20, 2025, 08:22:11 PM »
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  • Yes. I was only throwing it up so you could see WHY it was so trashy (it was from Magisterium AI - which is biased). As soon as it detects what it perceives as the magisterium coming under attack it freezes and just keeps saying, "no", "no", "no"... :laugh1:

    Now look at this:


    I am going to abandon Rome. I will take away the throne of the pontiff and deliver the city to the power of the devils and the revolution. Rome will no longer be the centre of the religion of Jesus. I will destroy and behead its priests and religious and again I will organize the enemy of Christ and his Church. The throne of the supreme pontiff will not return because it will be transferred to another place.”



    4. I could hardly believe what I was seeing the angel added: “Rome will be punished severely and the day is at hand, the day of weeping, mourning and grieving of blood and of fire and so that you will see how just is the heavenly vengeance, come, climb up to the peak of this mountain and from here you will see the abominations introduced in the holy place predicted by Prophet Daniel.”


    Full of consternation, fear and terror, my hair bristled, my flesh horrified, I climbed up to the peak of the mountain: “Look carefully and watch what is there in the sanctuary, scrutinize it, do not speak and keep the secret; the mystery of iniquity is already consummated, I am going to punish the culprit and the blood of the just will appease the wrath of God.”


    5. I was praying earnestly for the Church and the voice answered: “The prayers and supplications for the holy Church are heard and accepted by God. Do not pray for Rome because the decree of God is irrevocable, the punishment of the culprit and the patience of the martyrs will bring back to the holy Church her liberty, her glory and her splendor




















    Yes, the vision is about the abominations of the Counterfeit Catholic Church. That is most of what the Apocalypse is about. It is not about geopolitical wars and persecution of Christians by secular nation-states or the UN or whatever. The nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is the New Order (the Novus Ordo). 

    The "mystery of iniquity" is the Novus Ordo, which removed the "mystery of faith" from the words Consecration.

    But the vision in the Apocalypse is about things that happen during last years leading up to the Second Coming. We are just starting the 6th period of each Septenary (Seals, Trumpets, Vials). 

    Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist (La Salette). This is what the true Third Secret is talking about. This what the Pike letter was planning, to slowly infiltrate and turn the Roman Catholic Church into the Harlot of Babylon. All of these sources are talking about the same events that we are now living through (and have been for many decades). But the degree of harlotry started slow and has built more and more as Daniel explains.

    Of course the true Church, the faithful Remnant, is preserved, praise be to God, "in the wilderness," where we have valid Sacraments, etc. 


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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #113 on: Yesterday at 07:26:27 PM »
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  • “because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations;”

    “Look carefully and watch what is there in the sanctuary, scrutinize it, do not speak and keep the secret; the mystery of iniquity is already consummated, I am going to punish the culprit and the blood of the just will appease the wrath of God.”

    “Here you have the power of evil; a power which is outside the temple, and a power within the very sanctuary, united under one banner against God and his Church;”
     
    “from here you will see the abominations introduced in the holy place predicted by Prophet Daniel.”


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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
    « Reply #114 on: Yesterday at 10:04:55 PM »
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  • “because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations;”

    “Look carefully and watch what is there in the sanctuary, scrutinize it, do not speak and keep the secret; the mystery of iniquity is already consummated, I am going to punish the culprit and the blood of the just will appease the wrath of God.”

    “Here you have the power of evil; a power which is outside the temple, and a power within the very sanctuary, united under one banner against God and his Church;”
     
    “from here you will see the abominations introduced in the holy place predicted by Prophet Daniel.”

    Yes, they are "outside the temple," in the sense theological sense, meaning outside the Church because they are apostates and heretics. But they are "within the very sanctuary" because they have infiltrated the Institutional hierarchy and run the show as wolves in sheep's clothing. 

    Daniel 9:

    "26...And a people with their leader that shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary: and the end thereof shall be waste, and after the end of the war the appointed desolation.  27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fail: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end."

    The people with their leader are the modernists INSIDE the Church. The damage they do is to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which turns the institutional Church into a sacramental wasteland. This is where we are now. This is not something off into future. Apocalypse Now. But it has nothing to do with geopolitical wars and such. It is about the desolation in the Church.

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    Re: Francisco Palau's Prophecies
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  • I'm not aware of any Catholic commentary on the Apocalypse that says all of these figures and events refer exclusively to the state of the church. In fact if I recall correctly many of the fathers refer to final events happening somewhere in the middle east with Rome nowhere to be found.