Author Topic: Francisco Palau's Prophecies (Read 83715 times)

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #90 on:** December 14, 2025, 06:04:28 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on December 14, 2025, 06:01:15 PM

You are welcome to disagree.

I do disagree.

But opinions on these things can CERTAINLY vary!

I always enjoy the chats Angelus , thank you and God bless you.

Angelus · « **Reply #91 on:** December 14, 2025, 06:20:54 PM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 14, 2025, 05:44:35 PM

It says, "princes of darkness"

Where in Scripture is that equated with humans?

What does Scripture say about what are the "princes of darkness"?

Now, could many-to-most of the Cardinals have actually become possessed or were already under the influence of the demons - yes.

But again you are stretching here and trying to weave;

1) A Masonic prophecy.

2) A dubious 3rd Secret of Fatima from a untrustworthy source.

3) Fr. Palau's visions that he handed to Pope Pius IX.

Which, of all three it is only number 3 that really merits any trust...

So trying to weave them together is just to tie yourself in knots I think.

If you actually start to delve into that 2000 page beast of Fr. Palau's work you will see that so much of his fight was centered on fighting the actual demonic through exorcisms of actual demons, and he explains that why his visions will come to pass is because all the devils have been slowly loosed from hell and returned after they were cast out by Christ, the Apostles, the Fathers, etc. They started to return because the few that were left were allowed to remain due to the negligence of the office of exorcist, they caused ever increasing damage and aided other demons in getting released from the pit as a punishment for sins and negligence. Palau was censured by his own bishop (who seemed to have been diabolically influenced) from performing exorcisms. He was trying to warn Pius IX about what needed to be done. Fr. Palau was exiled by the Masons (who he openly opposed) to an island of the coast of Spain/Portugal. From there he would often life in solitude in a cave on the mountain and that is were he heard this voice speaking to him for 20 years. He seems to have been gifted with seeing angelic and demonic spirits at many and various times. He was also highly sensitive to the spiritual and could sense the presence of evil. He actually does seem like another very holy priest like Padre Pio. The fake Church considers him a Blessed (though that means little to me).

All three of the sources are speaking of the same exact end times events. They confirm one another if you will harmonize them.

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #92 on:** **Yesterday** at 08:08:14 PM »

A vision of the Apocalypse (pg. 943 #12)

(FIRST BEAST) "The beast is all the kings and powers of the earth seduced by the demons, which have shaken off the yoke of the Church and separated her, and joined to the shaken demons they form one body and unite in war against against the Church and her pontificate." Because they form one body with the dragon, if this falls, that beast must also fall."

"The dragon and the beast will fall on the same day; keep fighting."

(SECOND BEAST) That second beast is all the kings who say they are Catholics but are not, and united with one body with the people they govern they speak like the demons against Christ and his Church, and form a league with all the others I in the war against God. To these powers, represented in their horns are united all those Christians who are such only in appearance, but who in reality have neither faith nor true charity; and these are the ones who mixed with the just, stir up cινιℓ ωαr, which is all the more cruel, because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations, and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without.

"The dragon and these two beasts are but one thing in the spirit of evil. Here you have the power of evil. A power which is outside the temple, and a power within the very sanctuary, united under one banner against God and His Church. The battle is against those three powers. So, these three beasts cannot resist so much, because the three will fall into the abyss on the same day and at the same hour."

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #93 on:** **Yesterday** at 08:32:00 PM »

On the ministry of Exorcist:

Angelus · « **Reply #94 on:** **Yesterday** at 08:34:08 PM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Yesterday at 08:08:14 PM

A vision of the Apocalypse (pg. 943 #12)

(FIRST BEAST) "The beast is all the kings and powers of the earth seduced by the demons, which have shaken off the yoke of the Church and separated her, and joined to the shaken demons they form one body and unite in war against against the Church and her pontificate." Because they form one body with the dragon, if this falls, that beast must also fall."

"The dragon and the beast will fall on the same day; keep fighting."

(SECOND BEAST) That second beast is all the kings who say they are Catholics but are not, and united with one body with the people they govern they speak like the demons against Christ and his Church, and form a league with all the others I in the war against God. To these powers, represented in their horns are united all those Christians who are such only in appearance, but who in reality have neither faith nor true charity; and these are the ones who mixed with the just, stir up cινιℓ ωαr, which is all the more cruel, because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations, and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without.

"The dragon and these two beasts are but one thing in the spirit of evil. Here you have the power of evil. A power which is outside the temple, and a power within the very sanctuary, united under one banner against God and His Church. The battle is against those three powers. So, these three beasts cannot resist so much, because the three will fall into the abyss on the same day and at the same hour."

Yes, the vision is using the symbols in John's Apocalypse. What is explained to Fr. Palau is an interpretation, from an angel, of the meaning of John's Apocalypse.

This interpretation is still deeply veiled and not perfectly literal. But what should be crystal clear is that the main events of the Apocalypse are events occurring WITHIN the Roman Catholic Church. The kings and princes and battles are things happening INSIDE the Church. It is the final battle of Satan and his Counterfeit Church vs the faithful remnant of the true Church.

The Apocalypse is not about secular governments creating famines and wars and forcing innocent people to take "a mark." It is about a hostile, deceptive takeover by the Church by Satan with uses deception to cause weak Catholics to voluntarily receive false sacraments and consent to evil.

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #95 on:** **Yesterday** at 08:42:18 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on Yesterday at 08:34:08 PM

The Apocalypse is not about secular governments creating famines and wars and forcing innocent people to take "a mark." It is about a hostile, deceptive takeover by the Church by Satan with uses deception to cause weak Catholics to voluntarily receive false sacraments and consent to evil.

He was told it was 3:

1) The secular governments.

2) The false church - "because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations, and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without."

3) The dragon himself (Antichrist)

"The dragon and the two beasts are but one thing in the spirit of evil."

"They will all fall the same day and at the same hour."

Angelus · « **Reply #96 on:** **Yesterday** at 09:55:03 PM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Yesterday at 08:42:18 PM

He was told it was 3:

1) The secular governments.

2) The false church - "because disguised like the lamb they enter the sanctuary of God, and fill it with abominations, and this is the body of this beast which fights from within the first attacks from without."

3) The dragon himself (Antichrist)

"The dragon and the two beasts are but one thing in the spirit of evil."

"They will all fall the same day and at the same hour."

Let's read more closely what you quoted about the First Beast above:

"The beast is all the kings and powers of the earth seduced by the demons, which have shaken off the yoke of the Church and separated her, and joined to the shaken demons they form one body and unite in war against the Church and her pontificate."

Understand that apocalyptic language is intentionally obscure (the prophetic veil is being used). So you must read between the lines.

At first glance, it seems that "the kings and powers of earth" refers to secular leaders like Trump, Putin, Xi, etc. But look at the description of the "kings and powers" in the dependent clause that follows. They have "shaken off the yoke of the Church." People like Trump, Putin and Xi were never part of the Roman Catholic Church. They never bore "the yoke" of Christ. But people like modernist Cardinals and Bishops definitely bore the yoke and shook it off with their heresies.

And I would like to see the original text to check the phrase "separated her." It would make more sense in that context to say "separated FROM her," because the very next phrase speaks of joining to another "body" with the demons and going to war against the true Church and her pontificate. This is the dicessio referred to in the Vulgate translation of 2 Thessalonians 2.

The description uses the word king because every priest in the Church is a Priest, Prophet, and King. This First Beast is describing those that have the job of kingship within the Church: the hierarchy.

The Second Beast is the same people, but in their mode as prophet, aka teachers, of the gospel. These people teach in anti-gospel. They are the False Prophets who are led by the chief false prophet, the antipopes.

The dragon is not the Antichrist, a man. The dragon is defined in the Apocalypse as Satan himself. But he can possess men who invite him in. That is precisely what the antichrists and false prophets have done.

What I'm saying is that you need to compare what Fr. Palau describes and what St. John describes. They are talking about the same vision, but emphasizing slightly different things in the overall vision. Therefore, you must harmonize the descriptions to get clarity and see which parts of their descriptions are using language for the purpose of veiling and which parts are essential to the reality being described.

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #97 on:** **Today** at 10:01:24 AM »

Quote from: Angelus on Yesterday at 09:55:03 PM

Let's read more closely what you quoted about the First Beast above:

"The beast is all the kings and powers of the earth seduced by the demons, which have shaken off the yoke of the Church and separated her, and joined to the shaken demons they form one body and unite in war against the Church and her pontificate."

Understand that apocalyptic language is intentionally obscure (the prophetic veil is being used). So you must read between the lines.

No, Fr. Palua is being shown and the angel is EXPLAINING the meaning clearly (You really should just read the whole text/pages I posted).

FIRST BEAST = Is the secular/temporal/material arm of the dragon in the world - all the kings and powers that refuse to follow Christ's Church and have "separated" Her in the sense that by their refusal they have cut asunder the bond of unity that should exist if they rightly submitted to Christ's rule. They attack the Church FROM WITHOUT. This beast has always hounded the Church.

"Shaken off" does NOT mean they were all at one point Catholic, to refuse something is to shake it off, i.e., "shake off the dust of thy sandals".

SECOND BEAST = Clearly here I agree with what you were saying above (but you are wrongly attributing to the first beast) that this is speaking of a false hierarchy. This beast has always hounded the Church as well, i.e, through false "Catholic kings" (false bishops, antipopes, false priests) who spread their abominations "within the sanctuary" attacking the Church from WITHIN.

Now,

THIRD BEAST = THE ACTUAL FALSE CHURCH of VATICAN II.

See what it says,

"I looked towards the earth and I saw another beast. This third beast looked like a lamb; it had the fleece and the horns of a lamb, And the inhabitants of the earth believed it was Christ the Lamb of God, and I, at first sight, thought the same; but looking carefully, I saw that it had claws like a lion, and teeth like a wolf, and it blasphemed like the dragon. It received power like the beast with the seven heads, and with great marvelous signs made all the inhabitants of the earth adore the first beast.

Paul VI was the manifest head of this 3rd beast (false church). He proved this in a multiplicity of ways, but none so starkly as praising the U.N. as the "last great hope of humanity" and "stripping" the mock papacy of both its temporal and spiritual power by divesting himself of those symbols publicly. This of course, was a truly meaningless show/display in the sense that he was not a true Pope, but a meaningful sign in the sense that he manifested the third beast and caused others to "adore the first beast", thus leading astray., "all the inhabitants of the world."

The beasts are allegorical:

1st beast = ALL the secuar powers/governments of the world who have rejected Christ and His Church.

2nd beast = ALL heretics and schismatics who profane holy things and lead others out of the Church.

3rd beast = the false church of Vatican II that points everyone to worship the secular world powers i.e., religious freedom, ecuмenism, masonic anthropocentrism, etc.

Angelus · « **Reply #98 on:** **Today** at 11:00:06 AM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Today at 10:01:24 AM

No, Fr. Palua is being shown and the angel is EXPLAINING the meaning clearly (You really should just read the whole text/pages I posted).

FIRST BEAST = Is the secular/temporal/material arm of the dragon in the world - all the kings and powers that refuse to follow Christ's Church and have "separated" Her in the sense that by their refusal they have cut asunder the bond of unity that should exist if they rightly submitted to Christ's rule. They attack the Church FROM WITHOUT. This beast has always hounded the Church.

"Shaken off" does NOT mean they were all at one point Catholic, to refuse something is to shake it off, i.e., "shake off the dust of thy sandals".

SECOND BEAST = Clearly here I agree with what you were saying above (but you are wrongly attributing to the first beast) that this is speaking of a false hierarchy. This beast has always hounded the Church as well, i.e, through false "Catholic kings" (false bishops, antipopes, false priests) who spread their abominations "within the sanctuary" attacking the Church from WITHIN.

Now,

THIRD BEAST = THE ACTUAL FALSE CHURCH of VATICAN II.

See what it says,

"I looked towards the earth and I saw another beast. This third beast looked like a lamb; it had the fleece and the horns of a lamb, And the inhabitants of the earth believed it was Christ the Lamb of God, and I, at first sight, thought the same; but looking carefully, I saw that it had claws like a lion, and teeth like a wolf, and it blasphemed like the dragon. It received power like the beast with the seven heads, and with great marvelous signs made all the inhabitants of the earth adore the first beast.

Paul VI was the manifest head of this 3rd beast (false church). He proved this in a multiplicity of ways, but none so starkly as praising the U.N. as the "last great hope of humanity" and "stripping" the mock papacy of both its temporal and spiritual power by divesting himself of those symbols publicly. This of course, was a truly meaningless show/display in the sense that he was not a true Pope, but a meaningful sign in the sense that he manifested the third beast and caused others to "adore the first beast", thus leading astray., "all the inhabitants of the world."

The beasts are allegorical:

1st beast = ALL the secuar powers/governments of the world who have rejected Christ and His Church.

2nd beast = ALL heretics and schismatics who profane holy things and lead others out of the Church.

3rd beast = the false church of Vatican II that points everyone to worship the secular world powers i.e., religious freedom, ecuмenism, masonic anthropocentrism, etc.

You said, "No, Fr. Palua is being shown [a vision] and the angel is EXPLAINING the meaning clearly...", implying that I said something different.

But in my previous post I said the exact same thing, but added that Fr. Palau's description is simply a retelling the Apocalypse 12-13. I said, "Yes, the vision is using the symbols in John's Apocalypse. What is explained to Fr. Palau is an interpretation, from an angel, of the meaning of John's Apocalypse."

The exact VISION/EXPLANATION thing is how the Apocalypse is narrated. Fr. Palau is having the Apocalypse of John explained to him by an angel. It is not some totally new, totally unique vision. It has some elements that clarify things not detailed in the Apocalypse, but it is describing the same basic vision. So, if you want to understand the vision better, look at both what Fr. Palau says and what St. John says in the Apocalypse.

Now, to the substance of the vision. Of course there are 3 "beasts," that are the focus of the Apocalypse: the dragon, the Beast and the False Prophet [See Apoc. 16:13]. In the order described in the Apocalypse and in Fr. Palau's writings they are as follows:

1. The Dragon who is identified with Satan [Apocalypse 12:9]. That is not the Antichrist himself. The dragon is the devil coming down and possessing the men (through his demons) that we call antichrists and false prophets.

2. The Beast from the Sea [Apocalypse 13:1-8]. Most commentators refer to this person as THE Antichrist. Also, referred to simply as "the Beast" in other places. This beast represents the power structure in the Church of Rome, the Heads (Popes) and Horns (Cardinals). Note that he comes BEFORE the final beast. And he is the one who appears to be mortally wounded but lives. He is also called "the eighth who is of the seven and goes to perdition" [Apoc. 17:11]. So he is also called the son of perdition [John 17:12].

3. The Beast from the Earth [Apocalpse 13:11-15]. Most commentators call this person the False Prophet. He comes AFTER the Beast from the Sea and causes the world to adore the Beast whose "wound to death was healed," i.e., the Beast from the Sea.

We need to agree on these fundamental elements of the two narratives before moving on. Do you agree or disagree?

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #99 on:** **Today** at 04:08:11 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on Today at 11:00:06 AM

You said, "No, Fr. Palua is being shown [a vision] and the angel is EXPLAINING the meaning clearly...", implying that I said something different.

But in my previous post I said the exact same thing, but added that Fr. Palau's description is simply a retelling the Apocalypse 12-13. I said, "Yes, the vision is using the symbols in John's Apocalypse. What is explained to Fr. Palau is an interpretation, from an angel, of the meaning of John's Apocalypse."

The exact VISION/EXPLANATION thing is how the Apocalypse is narrated. Fr. Palau is having the Apocalypse of John explained to him by an angel. It is not some totally new, totally unique vision. It has some elements that clarify things not detailed in the Apocalypse, but it is describing the same basic vision. So, if you want to understand the vision better, look at both what Fr. Palau says and what St. John says in the Apocalypse.

Yes, we are in 100% agreement here - sorry if I made it seem otherwise.

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #100 on:** **Today** at 04:09:07 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on Today at 11:00:06 AM

Now, to the substance of the vision. Of course there are 3 "beasts," that are the focus of the Apocalypse: the dragon, the Beast and the False Prophet [See Apoc. 16:13]. In the order described in the Apocalypse and in Fr. Palau's writings they are as follows:

1. The Dragon who is identified with Satan [Apocalypse 12:9]. That is not the Antichrist himself. The dragon is the devil coming down and possessing the men (through his demons) that we call antichrists and false prophets

Yes we agree here.

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #101 on:** **Today** at 04:18:50 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on Today at 11:00:06 AM

2. The Beast from the Sea [Apocalypse 13:1-8]. Most commentators refer to this person as THE Antichrist. Also, referred to simply as "the Beast" in other places. ~~This beast represents the power structure in the Church of Rome, the Heads (Popes) and Horns (Cardinals).~~

This interpretation is NOT what was explained to Fr. Palau. He even references Apocalypse 13: 1-10 after the description - please read:

1) first beast = demonic world powers, i.e., all the Masonic world governments and those given to false gods - they attack the Church from without.

2) second beast = evil prelates, and priests given to heresy/schism i.e., Arius, Nestorius, Luther, etc. - they attack the Church from within.

3) third beast (looks like the Lamb but isn't) = antichurch/antichrist - (here is where I think we need to concentrate - #14 above)

Angelus · « **Reply #102 on:** **Today** at 05:07:08 PM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Today at 04:18:50 PM

This interpretation is NOT what was explained to Fr. Palau. He even references Apocalypse 13: 1-10 after the description - please read:

1) first beast = demonic world powers, i.e., all the Masonic world governments and those given to false gods - they attack the Church from without.

2) second beast = evil prelates, and priests given to heresy/schism i.e., Arius, Nestorius, Luther, etc. - they attack the Church from within.

3) third beast (looks like the Lamb but isn't) = antichurch/antichrist - (here is where I think we need to concentrate - #14 above)

Again, the first beast is the Dragon. That is Satan himself (and his demons). And his demonic influence is both OUTSIDE and INSIDE the Church. But this influence has always been outside the Church. In the end times, the difference is that the demonic influence is INSIDE the hierarchy the Vatican.

The Second Beast is the Beast from the Sea. It has 7 heads and 10 Horns. These are the papal and antipapal regimes beginning with Pius XI to our time. This is the Holy See in its political, governing power mode. Read Apocalypse 17 for more detail. Also read Daniel 7-8. The Antichrist is the one who is mentioned in this line "And I saw one of his heads as it were slain to death: and his death's wound was healed. And all the earth was in admiration after the beast (Apoc. 13:3." This is also called the "eighth" king discussed in Apocalypse 17:11. Again, all these references are to the same person, Bergoglio, the eighth since Pius XI.

The Third Beast that looks like a Lamb is the False Prophet. He causes the Harlot Church that he oversees to adore the "eighth [king]" who "is of the seven and goes to perdition." Bergoglio is that eighth king. Prevost and all the other Cardinals are the Ten Horns who burn the Harlot (the laity), those following the doctrine of Synodality of the Beast/the eighth "king."

SkidRowCatholic · « **Reply #103 on:** **Today** at 05:19:46 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on Today at 05:07:08 PM

Again, the first beast is the Dragon. That is Satan himself (and his demons). And his demonic influence is both OUTSIDE and INSIDE the Church. But this influence has always been outside the Church. In the end times, the difference is that the demonic influence is INSIDE the hierarchy the Vatican.

This ^ is NOT what the text says though.

Let us take it one at a time.

It says the dragon is, "All the power of the demons joined in one body in the war against the Church."

Then it goes on to describe the "dragon"

Followed then by the first beast rising from the sea (Apoc. 13)

They are not one and the same - strictly speaking - according to this text here that we are evaluating.

"I saw another very fierce beast rise, it had seven heads like the dragon."

Do you agree that this text here is marking a difference between the "dragon" and the "first beast"?

I know what YOU think the first beast is - we will get to that next - but first do you agree the "dragon" and the "first beast" are different (not the same thing)?

Angelus · « **Reply #104 on:** **Today** at 05:27:20 PM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Today at 05:19:46 PM

Lets take it one at a time.

This is NOT what the text says though.

It says the dragon is, "All the power of the demons joined in one body in the war against the Church."

Then it goes on to describe the "dragon"

Followed then by the first beast rising from the sea (Apoc. 13)

They are not one and the same - strictly speaking - according to this text here that we are evaluating.

"I saw another very fierce beast rise, it had seven heads like the dragon."

Do you agree that this text here is marking a difference between the "dragon" and the "first beast"?

I know what YOU think the first beast is - we will get to that next - but first do you agree the "dragon" and the "first beast" are different (not the same thing)?

Yes, I am saying that the "dragon" is the first beast described by Fr. Palau. Look at Fr. Palau section 12, "and I saw another very fierce beast rise..." He uses the word "another," meaning he just described the first one, the Dragon.

The second beast Fr. Palau describes is the beast from the Sea.

I said this exact thing in my earlier post:

"Again, the first beast is the Dragon. That is Satan himself (and his demons). And his demonic influence is both OUTSIDE and INSIDE the Church. But this influence has always been outside the Church. In the end times, the difference is that the demonic influence is INSIDE the hierarchy the Vatican.

The Second Beast is the Beast from the Sea..."

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