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Offline Giovanni Berto

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  • So is the real issue you have - that you disapprove of his "Conclavism" (as you pointed on page 1 already)...

    Or +Da Silva and +Roy are both "imprudent" in your estimation?

    Or the spiritual offspring of +Da Silva are "tainted" with his own personal problems?

    Or are you suggesting there are moral problems?

    Not really sure how to read your post...

    "Or the spiritual offspring of +Da Silva are "tainted" with his own personal problems?" Yes.

    "Or are you suggesting there are moral problems?" Yes.


    Offline Clemens

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  • We have to be careful to not misrepresent the positions of others. Bishop Roy has been very clear, despite what Ladislaus is saying, that he wishes that non-sedevacantist clergy would join the council. He says it 1:08:00 in his interview with Stephen Kokx. I think he agrees that there can be confused non-sedevacantists who are still Catholics.

    Despite the difficulties, he thinks that the remaining clergy must do what they can to remedy the situation. That does not mean that he wants to elect a pope without him being able to achieve universal recognition or that he is ''conclavist''.

    He thinks sometimes God intervenes after men have done what they could. He made the comparaison with the Battle of Lepanto in his sermon : Christendom prayed and went to battle despite the great number of enemies. Do you think there is anything wrong with this? It is hard seeing what if you are a sedevacantist who believes there is an almost 70-year old vacancy.

    The accusations of Giovanni Berto against Bishop Da Silva also seem gratuitous. I would be very surprised if he were a conclavist.


    Offline Giovanni Berto

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  • We have to be careful to not misrepresent the positions of others. Bishop Roy has been very clear, despite what Ladislaus is saying, that he wishes that non-sedevacantist clergy would join the council. He says it 1:08:00 in his interview with Stephen Kokx. I think he agrees that there can be confused non-sedevacantists who are still Catholics.

    Despite the difficulties, he thinks that the remaining clergy must do what they can to remedy the situation. That does not mean that he wants to elect a pope without him being able to achieve universal recognition or that he is ''conclavist''.

    He thinks sometimes God intervenes after men have done what they could. He made the comparaison with the Battle of Lepanto in his sermon : Christendom prayed and went to battle despite the great number of enemies. Do you think there is anything wrong with this? It is hard seeing what if you are a sedevacantist who believes there is an almost 70-year old vacancy.

    The accusations of Giovanni Berto against Bishop Da Silva also seem gratuitous. I would be very surprised if he were a conclavist.

    He is not a Conclavist, as far as I am aware, but there are very serious problems with his priests.

    One gives collective absolution if the confession line still has people waiting and it is time for mass. Another one has sinned seriously against the sixth commandment (sodomy). Another one was a member of a sect and became a Traditionalist priest without an abjuration.

    His apostolate is nothing short of scandalous, I am sorry to say. It would be great if we had a serious Sedevacantist bishop in Brazil, but, unfortunately, this is not the case here.

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  • He is not a Conclavist, as far as I am aware, but there are very serious problems with his priests.

    One gives collective absolution if the confession line still has people waiting and it is time for mass. Another one has sinned seriously against the sixth commandment (sodomy). Another one was a member of a sect and became a Traditionalist priest without an abjuration.

    His apostolate is nothing short of scandalous, I am sorry to say. It would be great if we had a serious Sedevacantist bishop in Brazil, but, unfortunately, this is not the case here.
    Well you claim to be from there, so your assessment does bare some consideration...

    Do you happen to have any evidence you could point those of us not from Brazil towards that would aid in verifying what you assert?

    And not to be argumentative - but what does +Roy have to do with the above?