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Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
« on: October 09, 2017, 12:53:28 PM »
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    Pope Francis will impose a new lectionary and calendar on the traditional Mass



    Francis will impose the lectionary and calendar of the New Mass on Traditional Rite, said reliable sources close to the Holy See at Pro Tridentina Malta . 

    Starting on the first Sunday of Advent 2018, a new mass for this new form of Old Rite should be made available. The Vatican will allow a two-year period to make the changes. 

    Pro Tridentina Malta is convinced that institutes such as the Fraternity of St. Peter will demand an exemption but expect all requests to be rejected. Such a measure could only be taken as a targeted provocation of the relativistic liberal who at the moment controls the Vatican, to liberate the Catholics of the Old Rite from Catholics.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 01:22:14 PM »
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    Oh, how grateful must Catholics be for this blessing................. NOT
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    Is this just another parlor trick stunt like the one where he stood in front of a high altar and yanked the altar cloth out from under the candles?
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    a targeted provocation of the relativistic liberal who at the moment controls the Vatican
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    All he's accomplishing is digging himself a deeper hole in hell.
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    Now, be careful what you say............ Okay, I won't say it...............  :cussing:.
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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 01:44:40 PM »
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    Starting on the first Sunday of Advent 2018, a new mass for this new form of Old Rite should be made available.
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    I endured the entire tenure of Rogerio Cardfile Balony in L.A. and witnessed his pranks in real time. He was a piece of work.
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    He's now retired in my old parish Church.
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    Every time he wanted to roll out a new revolutionary scheme, it would be scheduled in advance to start at the beginning of Advent the following year.
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    I ought to come up with a list of them.

    I never heard it explained why the beginning of Advent would be the time he chose.
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    All the major moves after Vat.II were introduced at the beginning of Advent in whatever year they were.
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    It seems to me Advent is a time when families are preparing for Christmas and busy "getting into the spirit of the season" and are therefore MOST VULNERABLE to revolutionary changes being imposed from the top down, since the fighting spirit one needs to oppose such changes is in conflict with the festive "holiday" spirit. Also, Advent is a time when we joyfully anticipate the arrival of our Redeemer, so the positive looking forward to something new can be purloined or stolen by subversives who want to put a happy face on their act of subterfuge.
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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 01:54:36 PM »
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    In other news,
    Pope Francis: The Ten Commandments are not binding
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    (From sidebar on linked page.)
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    Does it take a genius to figure that if Francis thinks we're not bound by God's law, then why does he think we would be bound by what Francis hands down regarding liturgical practices?
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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 03:21:05 PM »
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  • Advent is the beginning of the Church year.


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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 09:00:39 AM »
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  • Francis calls Traditionalists - those who adhere to the Latin Mass only - as "hardheads."  And a few other choice phrases....  In utter frustration he stomps his feet and rails away, trying by any means to unhinge us from our Holy Mass.  So here's the new scheme:  by attempting to invade the traditional calendar in this way, he feels he is disrupting and destroying that area in the life of the Latin Mass of Traditionalists, which still exists in opposition to him.

    Well, as Fr. Wathen said when the Novus Ordo began to drop some of the Holy Days of Obligation and there was a question whether to go along:

    "Don't even think about it..."

     
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 10:53:56 AM »
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  • Francis calls Traditionalists - those who adhere to the Latin Mass only - as "hardheads."  And a few other choice phrases....  In utter frustration he stomps his feet and rails away, trying by any means to unhinge us from our Holy Mass.  So here's the new scheme:  by attempting to invade the traditional calendar in this way, he feels he is disrupting and destroying that area in the life of the Latin Mass of Traditionalists, which still exists in opposition to him.

    Well, as Fr. Wathen said when the Novus Ordo began to drop some of the Holy Days of Obligation and there was a question whether to go along:

    "Don't even think about it..."

     
    Father was indeed a true man of principal. He would come to the correct conclusion and never wavered from it. He was also very astute in judging what was happening and where it would lead.
    But he was a voice crying in the wilderness among his clerical brethren.
    We are all poorer for his loss.

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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 11:39:36 AM »
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  • He feels he is disrupting and destroying that area in the life of the Latin Mass of Traditionalists, which still exists in opposition to him.
    A true pope cannot be in opposition to the Mass and the Mass cannot be in opposition to the pope.  But if a man is obviously in opposition to the Mass, you can be sure he is not the pope.


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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 02:16:03 PM »
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  • Gloria.tv Link
    Pope Francis will impose a new lectionary and calendar on the traditional Mass



    Francis will impose the lectionary and calendar of the New Mass on Traditional Rite, said reliable sources close to the Holy See at Pro Tridentina Malta .

    Starting on the first Sunday of Advent 2018, a new mass for this new form of Old Rite should be made available. The Vatican will allow a two-year period to make the changes.

    Pro Tridentina Malta is convinced that institutes such as the Fraternity of St. Peter will demand an exemption but expect all requests to be rejected. Such a measure could only be taken as a targeted provocation of the relativistic liberal who at the moment controls the Vatican, to liberate the Catholics of the Old Rite from Catholics.

    Why is all the important news not in English?
    Is the Catholic media in the USA all sold out?
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 03:51:49 PM »
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    In other news,
    Pope Francis: The Ten Commandments are not binding
    5  2  2.4K 10 hours ago
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    (From sidebar on linked page.)
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    Does it take a genius to figure that if Francis thinks we're not bound by God's law, then why does he think we would be bound by what Francis hands down regarding liturgical practices?
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    Somehow he thinks there's still some life left in the old obedience stick - the sheep will do whatever we say, even if it's sinful. 
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 05:03:10 PM »
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  • Why is all the important news not in English?
    Is the Catholic media in the USA all sold out?
    If you mean, has the Conciliar Catholic media in the USA all sold out, then the answer is, "Yes."


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    Re: Francis will reform the Tridentine Mass in Advent 2018
    « Reply #11 on: October 10, 2017, 09:02:59 PM »
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  • If you mean, has the Conciliar Catholic media in the USA all sold out, then the answer is, "Yes."
    Perhaps someone should write the USCCP... dingit! I mean the UNCCB... darnit! Try this again......'U.S.C.C.B'

    Whew!
    "Lord, have mercy".