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He only sits in choir & gives the sermon - regular priest does everything else.

Get up and run for the door as if the building was on fire (genuflecting 1st of course).
2 (8%)
Freeze in a mindless stupor and remain immobilized by fear.
0 (0%)
Jump up and denounce him as a heretic and apostate and storm out.
6 (24%)
Remain calm, pray, and carry on as if nothing happened.
3 (12%)
After getting over the shock, offer a quick prayer for his conversion and quietly make your exit.
8 (32%)
Other (please explain)
6 (24%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Author Topic: Francis Shows Up for Mass Tomorrow What Do You Do?  (Read 21077 times)

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Offline Yeti

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Re: Francis Shows Up for Mass Tomorrow What Do You Do?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2024, 01:33:54 PM »
The scenario is a bit problematic because it is impossible for most of the members of this forum.

It's kind of like asking, "What if you were praying at a mosque at the imam got up and started saying we have to kill America because it is the great satan. What would you do?" The question can't really be answered because we would never be praying at a mosque to begin with. :facepalm:

In the same way, we would never be at a church where the scenario you describe could ever happen.

Re: Francis Shows Up for Mass Tomorrow What Do You Do?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2024, 03:20:59 PM »
So, with regard to the longer St. Michael prayer ... let me ask others first before answering myself ... what is striking about this pasage here?

That passage is striking on so many levels.

For those hyper-papalist, "best Pope ever" acolytes of Francis, it would make their heads explode, or rather, they might say it refers to a scenario that doesn't exist in the here and now.  Some might go so far as to say that it refers to a so-called clericalism and triumphalism of Leo's time that Vatican II did away with.  There are many who, as a practical matter, imagine that "the Church began in 1962", that, aside from a highly romanticized "early Church", we are just now finally getting it right.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Francis Shows Up for Mass Tomorrow What Do You Do?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2024, 04:00:56 PM »
Indeed it's striking, and, as the story goes, he wrote it down immediately after his vision ... so it probably reflects the content of what he saw.  Now, some claim that the vision never happened, but it appears that at least one or two credible sources reported it.

In any case, what I wanted to call out is that the text is in the PAST TENSE, as if it has already happend.  Except that it hadn't yet.  So that speaks more and more to how he saw something in his vision that had happened in the future, namely, the replacement of the See of Rome with some throne of abominable impiety.

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These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the spouse of the immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where the See of Holy Peter and the Chair of Truth has been set up as the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

Apart from the fact that it obviously talks about raising up some throne to displace or replace the Chair of Truth so as to strike the Pastor and scatter the sheep (undboutedly the Bogus Ordo "Popes") ... he's referring to that in the past tense, except that it hadn't happened yet.  One would use this tense from the perspective of having seen a vision of the future when it had already happened.

He also calls out that the Chair of truth is the light of the world, indicating that he saw this light eclipsed by this impious counter-throne.

Re: Francis Shows Up for Mass Tomorrow What Do You Do?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2024, 06:54:27 PM »
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Be subject therefore to God, but resist the devil, and he will fly from you.

Re: Francis Shows Up for Mass Tomorrow What Do You Do?
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2024, 10:30:25 PM »
You are already there saying your prayers - big commotion in the nave, lots of movement - next thing you notice is a guy in wheelchair getting pushed up the center aisle by a small entourage who looks just like pope Francis. Fantastical I know, but instructive for ourselves and others. What do you do?    :confused:

Depends how I felt on the day, but it would probably be one of these 3 -

1) Walk out.

2) Stay there and just ignore him with perhaps the chance to get close and tell him something.

3) If I get a chance to get close, I'd say something like "I know what you did to Pope Benedict XVI" not yell it out or anything, just so he could hear it and I could see his reaction.

God Bless