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Offline Incredulous

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Francis saw his demons
« on: April 22, 2025, 07:34:11 AM »
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  • He had to be sedated after seeing a portal of Hell at the foot of his bed.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #1 on: April 22, 2025, 07:42:09 AM »
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  • :facepalm:


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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #2 on: April 22, 2025, 08:13:50 AM »
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  • The man used the highest position in the Church to publicly spout heresies and blasphemies almost weekly for 12 years, not to mention all the evil things he was doing covertly. 
    In the course of my life I have never met an individual who was that committed to something with such a single minded purpose, whether it was pursuing money, women, or other worldly pleasures. And I've known some very hedonistic people. 
    Bergoglio and his predecessors were indeed cut from a different cloth. It takes a unique psychopathy to be a lifetime actor. Actors they were, posing as men of faith while doing everything possible to undermine the faith of others. 
    I simply have no explanation for what would drive such a person beyond demonic possession. 
    The truly bizarre thing is that there's a college of cardinals vying to for the chance to do the same exact thing.

    Now the likelihood of such a person saying "oopsie, my bad" in their last hours is practically ZERO


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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #3 on: April 22, 2025, 08:26:45 AM »
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  • Many priests and end of care workers will testify to the fact that VERY FEW people have death bed conversions.  More likely they entrench into their positions stubbornly, and refuse all offers of repentance.  And people who are gravely ill probably can't make signs of repentance even if they wanted to.  The Sinners Guide by Ven Louis of Grenada cautions against deferring conversion until death because of pride or despair the sinner will refuse.

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #4 on: April 22, 2025, 08:50:45 AM »
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  • Many priests and end of care workers will testify to the fact that VERY FEW people have death bed conversions.  More likely they entrench into their positions stubbornly, and refuse all offers of repentance.  And people who are gravely ill probably can't make signs of repentance even if they wanted to.  The Sinners Guide by Ven Louis of Grenada cautions against deferring conversion until death because of pride or despair the sinner will refuse.
    This is very true and I have personally witnessed this with several relatives. I recently pointed out to a novus ordite a couple of Bergoglio's more egregious heresies and they just defaulted to the "gates of hell shall not prevail" cope to dismiss or sidestep all the errors of VII. Now if these people are so obstinate and willfully blind to the truth while they are in full possession of their faculties, how can you expect them to see the light of reason in their final moments as they are full of painkillers, disoriented, confused, sedated, fearful? 
    Covid is another example, the boomers went all in on getting vaxxed to the hilt. Lots of them probably regret it, especially after suffering from all sorts of side effects, but very very few will admit to being wrong...or being fooled by Captain Warpspeed. It comes down to pride, always pride. 


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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #5 on: April 22, 2025, 09:08:13 AM »
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  • He had to be sedated after seeing a portal of Hell at the foot of his bed.
    Emotionalism is in full force these days.... 

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #6 on: April 22, 2025, 09:13:29 AM »
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  • Many priests and end of care workers will testify to the fact that VERY FEW people have death bed conversions.  More likely they entrench into their positions stubbornly, and refuse all offers of repentance.  And people who are gravely ill probably can't make signs of repentance even if they wanted to.  The Sinners Guide by Ven Louis of Grenada cautions against deferring conversion until death because of pride or despair the sinner will refuse.

    I have noticed that, at least in males, this tends to "harden" at about 70 years of age.  They wear their apostasy as a badge of honor.

    It's anecdotal, to be sure, but it's there.

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #7 on: April 22, 2025, 09:18:20 AM »
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  • "Waterford Whispers" seems to be kind of like an Irish version of The Onion.

    Still, though, why they would make such a video is not easy to understand.  It certainly has no comic merit.


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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #8 on: April 22, 2025, 10:56:23 AM »
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  • Emotionalism is in full force these days....

    Granted this story could be a hack, but it fits the storyline of what many hospital personnel have observed over hundreds of years.

    As far as Jєωιѕн conversions go, and I do think Bergolio was one of them, few are sincere.  
    They for sure are not what is jokingly called, “ Full Bobby Fischer” conversions.

    But it one rare instance in 2003, I heard a jewess personally testify that she converted only after seeing a demonic series of events in her and her boyfriend’s home.  This realization of manifest evil made her want to get Baptized, which she did, by Father Cooper.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2025, 10:59:04 AM »
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  • “He Will Have to Account for the Crimes He Has Committed” – Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò Publishes Scathing Response to News of Pope Francis’s Death
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/he-will-have-account-crimes-he-has-committed/

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2025, 11:28:50 AM »
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  • Whether a heretic/joo/pagan converts or not, they will still have to pay for their sins, as will we all.  We will pay for them either in hell or purgatory.  

    I’ve heard some Trads express the idea they were “fine” if so-and-so heretic didn’t convert because they needed to be punished for crimes against the Church.  But this is a horrendous error.  Even if they convert (which is what God desires), their punishment will remain, in purgatory.  Nobody can hide from God's justice.  And any crimes they committed against the Church are 1) allowed by God and 2) are only temporary since the Church is of Divine origin.  

    We should all guard against over/zealousness against sinners and “pious revenge” against heretics.  These are not catholic ideals.  And can lead to bitterness, anger and loss of faith.  Very dangerous. 


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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #11 on: April 22, 2025, 11:34:41 AM »
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  • This is very true and I have personally witnessed this with several relatives. I recently pointed out to a novus ordite a couple of Bergoglio's more egregious heresies and they just defaulted to the "gates of hell shall not prevail" cope to dismiss or sidestep all the errors of VII. Now if these people are so obstinate and willfully blind to the truth while they are in full possession of their faculties, how can you expect them to see the light of reason in their final moments as they are full of painkillers, disoriented, confused, sedated, fearful?
    Covid is another example, the boomers went all in on getting vaxxed to the hilt. Lots of them probably regret it, especially after suffering from all sorts of side effects, but very very few will admit to being wrong...or being fooled by Captain Warpspeed. It comes down to pride, always pride.

    And that's not even the worst of it.  Fallen away Catholics who REFUSE communion* from visiting priests is not uncommon, with a "I'm good" demurral. 


    *Not referring to those who refuse based on doubts of validity.

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #12 on: April 22, 2025, 12:36:13 PM »
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  • We should all guard against over/zealousness against sinners and “pious revenge” against heretics.  These are not catholic ideals.  And can lead to bitterness, anger and loss of faith.  Very dangerous.

    You're right.  There'a balance to be had between the two false extremes.  On the one hand, it's wrong to gloss over, minimize, and effectively condone the gravity of all that Bergoglio did to harm and destroy the faith ... and on the other extreme the bitter zeal wherein one can sense almost a sick pleasure in the thought of Bergoglio burning in Hell.  If I had to pick which one is worse, however, it would actually be the latter IMO.  But all this talk of "well, he's died now, so we should only say good things about him" ... that's also a grave error because it condones and minimizes his crimes as if they had been "no big deal".

    Let's say someone who died who had been a serial adulterer and/or fornicator ... perhaps having abandoned a half dozen "wives" and dozens of children.  "Well, he was a super nice guy, very kind, generous to the poor."  Highly inappropriate, since it gives the impression that these qualities offset his very real sins.  At best one might not bring them up and just tell his relatives, "I'm sorry for your loss." ... but it's very wrong to start praising such a guy.  And the same thing holds of Bergoglio.

    I wonder why so few people can find the right balance between erroneous extremes.

    Bergoglio did some terrible things that we must not minimize, but at the same time we don't wish damnation on anyone, and God wills the salvation of all souls.  I do think it likely that he did not save his soul (though I do pray that in the past he received the grace and light of conversion and repentance), but I still feel sorry for the poor fool.

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #13 on: April 22, 2025, 12:50:32 PM »
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  • Friendship with the world is enmity with Christ. 
    When you have garbage celebrities and heads of state falling over themselves to praise you
    that means you're part of the club...their club. 
    I saw that first hand when "Cardinal" Bernadin died in Chicago. You had secular people
    who had never darkened the doorstep of a Catholic church singing his praises in endless
    newspaper columns and on the tv. There was an implicit understanding that he was on 
    their side. 

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    Re: Francis saw his demons
    « Reply #14 on: April 22, 2025, 01:08:10 PM »
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  • Friendship with the world is enmity with Christ.
    When you have garbage celebrities and heads of state falling over themselves to praise you
    that means you're part of the club...their club.
    I saw that first hand when "Cardinal" Bernadin died in Chicago. You had secular people
    who had never darkened the doorstep of a Catholic church singing his praises in endless
    newspaper columns and on the tv. There was an implicit understanding that he was on
    their side.
    There is no doubt that Francis was on the wrong side.  That doesn’t mean he couldn’t have converted.  Gods grace is more powerful than every evil person/demon ever created.