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Offline Judith 15 Ten

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Francis may allow women "deacons"
« on: January 24, 2019, 06:17:33 PM »
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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #1 on: January 24, 2019, 06:45:30 PM »
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    • Perhaps the workaround here is this.

    They establish there is no such thing as gender or that gender is fluid or Schrodinger like in some metaphysical sense.

    The Church says gender does not really exist since we are all equal in the eyes of God as "souls" or some such horse-hockey.

    The old rules are not broken just re-interpreted in a "genderless" hermeneutic.  There are priest who look like women but since there are no "women" according to our new pastoral understanding, they are not "women priests".

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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 09:44:18 PM »
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    • According to Our Lady of LaSalette, tow worm-ridden popes will die on the same night.

    We're waiting  :farmer:
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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 02:34:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on January 24, 2019, 09:44:18 PM
    According to Our Lady of LaSalette, tow worm-ridden popes will die on the same night.

    We're waiting  :farmer:
    Where does it say that? Can't find any mention of that in any account I've seen. 
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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 04:40:40 PM »
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    • Do a quick youtube search for/

    "Father Hesse, Two worm ridden popes".

    Father pondered the meaning before he died in 2006.
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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #5 on: January 26, 2019, 03:35:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on January 25, 2019, 04:40:40 PM
    Do a quick youtube search for/

    "Father Hesse, Two worm ridden popes".

    Father pondered the meaning before he died in 2006.
    Yes but I can't find the text they're quoting. The only transcriptions of the message I can find online make no mention of it. 
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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #6 on: January 28, 2019, 11:24:00 PM »
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    •  Pope Francis said Monday he is opposed to the idea of optional priestly celibacy in the Latin rite, and he would consider it only for very remote places if a serious need existed.
    “Personally, I think that celibacy is a gift to the Church,” the pope said Jan. 28. “I would say that I do not agree with allowing optional celibacy, no.”
    Speaking aboard the papal plane from Panama to Rome, Pope Francis said he does think there is room to consider an exceptions for married clergy in the Latin rite in “very far places” “when there is a pastoral necessity” due to a lack of priests, such as in the Pacific islands.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-says-he-is-against-making-priestly-celibacy-optional-in-the-latin-rite-13209
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    Re: Francis may allow women "deacons"
    « Reply #7 on: January 30, 2019, 12:08:53 AM »
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    • Responding to a comment about the long tradition of married priests in the Eastern Catholic Churches, or in the case-by-case exceptions made for married Anglican ministers who convert to Catholicism, he said he was reminded of Pope St. Paul VI’s comment: “I prefer to give my life before changing the law of celibacy.”
    Paul VI was the author of the encyclical, Sacerdotalis caelibatus, which defends priestly celibacy, published in 1967. The pope commented that it was a “courageous phrase” of the pope, said during a “more difficult” period.


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