Author Topic: A Shocking Video From the Vatican (Read 3149 times)

Dolores · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2015, 01:14:57 PM »

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We are still awaiting your apology, RomanCatholic1953, for posting such an anti-Catholic video and for starting such an ignorant thread.

DOLORES

I have absolutely no intentions of apologizing to you and anyone else for this thread.

The video speaks the truth. Those Cardinals were singing songs to LUCIFER, the prince
of the underworld.

And, they knew whom they were singing to.

I have a collection of Catholic pre vatican 2 hymnals. And Altar Missals. LUCIFER cannot
be found in the Latin.

After all, Our Lady said at Lasallette said that ROME WILL LOSE THE FAITH AND BECOME
THE SEAT OF THE ANTICHRIST.

I need an apology from you DOLORES.

Your ignorance is astounding. What's more, your defense of a blatantly anti-Catholic video borders scandle and sin.

I suggest you look much more closely at all of your pre-Vatican 2 items because your are very wrong. Specifically, look at the Exsultet (Easter Proclamation). The Latin word "lucifer" appears twice in this holy and traditional hymn, and is a reference to the morning star (Christ), not to the devil. I also suggest you look at the Second Epistle Of Saint Peter, chapter 1, verse 19:

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et habemus firmiorem propheticuм sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris

Again, the Latin word "lucifier" is used as a reference to the morning star (Christ), and not to the devil.

It is only in the English language that the word "lucifer" has become synonymous with the devil. For goodness sake, there are two saints that bear the name Lucifer: Saint Lucifer of Cagliari and Saint Lucifer of Siena.

This board deserves an apology from you for your posting, and filthy defense of, a horribly anti-Catholic video; the men in the video deserve an apology from you for accusing them of singing to the devil (when in fact they were singing a holy and traditional hymn); and you, RomanCatholic1953, need to stop with these terrible posts.

I suggest to Matthew that you be banned until you can recognize the errors of your ways and offer the appropriate apologies.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2015, 01:18:25 PM »

Quote from: Dolores

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
Quote from: Dolores
We are still awaiting your apology, RomanCatholic1953, for posting such an anti-Catholic video and for starting such an ignorant thread.

DOLORES

I have absolutely no intentions of apologizing to you and anyone else for this thread.

The video speaks the truth. Those Cardinals were singing songs to LUCIFER, the prince
of the underworld.

And, they knew whom they were singing to.

I have a collection of Catholic pre vatican 2 hymnals. And Altar Missals. LUCIFER cannot
be found in the Latin.

After all, Our Lady said at Lasallette said that ROME WILL LOSE THE FAITH AND BECOME
THE SEAT OF THE ANTICHRIST.

I need an apology from you DOLORES.

Your ignorance is astounding. What's more, your defense of a blatantly anti-Catholic video borders scandle and sin.

I suggest you look much more closely at all of your pre-Vatican 2 items because your are very wrong. Specifically, look at the Exsultet (Easter Proclamation). The Latin word "lucifer" appears twice in this holy and traditional hymn, and is a reference to the morning star (Christ), not to the devil. I also suggest you look at the Second Epistle Of Saint Peter, chapter 1, verse 19:

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et habemus firmiorem propheticuм sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris

Again, the Latin word "lucifier" is used as a reference to the morning star (Christ), and not to the devil.

It is only in the English language that the word "lucifer" has become synonymous with the devil. For goodness sake, there are two saints that bear the name Lucifer: Saint Lucifer of Cagliari and Saint Lucifer of Siena.

This board deserves an apology from you for your posting, and filthy defense of, a horribly anti-Catholic video; the men in the video deserve an apology from you for accusing them of singing to the devil (when in fact they were singing a holy and traditional hymn); and you, RomanCatholic1953, need to stop with these terrible posts.

I suggest to Matthew that you be banned until to can recognize the errors of your ways and offer the appropriate apologies.

I agree 100 percent, and to add a little more, grammatically there is no capitalization of the letter (L), meaning that it is to be translated as an object (morning star) and not a proper noun, such as a NAME!

Matthew · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2015, 02:56:49 PM »

RomanCatholic1953,

You might have hand missals and even an altar missal, but did you check the Breviary?

I have experience in a traditional seminary, and I remember one of the minor hours mentioning the daystar or morning star (lucifer).

I agree with those who said the video is protestant, anti-Catholic.

I also agree with Ladislaus and others who "facepalmed" in response to this thread.

There is enough wrong with the Novus Ordo that we don't need to create additional and FALSE charges to lay at their feet, due to our own ignorance of Latin and/or the Divine Office.

I am also objective enough to point out that this is one of the ways that Americans fall short on the world stage. They might have their strengths, but their monolingual ways certainly put them at a disadvantage in certain areas -- this is one of them. As someone pointed out, Lucifer is only synonymous with "the devil" in English. But if you grew up in the "#1 Superpower" USA, you wouldn't need to learn any other languages, and so you'd never know that.

In my experience, every person -- and every nation -- has strengths and weaknesses.

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