Author Topic: Francis Considers Ordaining Women to Diaconate (Read 938 times)

Ladislaus · « **on:** August 02, 2016, 09:49:07 AM »

http://www.france24.com/en/20160802-vatican-pope-francis-commission-women-roles-church-deacons

So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?

If not, will they be slowly boiled to death like frogs as they accept one of these things after another as compatible with Catholic faith?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2016, 10:00:41 AM »

Another article on this subject (includes a list of the clowns appointed to the commission):

http://www.lastampa.it/2016/08/02/vaticaninsider/eng/the-vatican/francis-institutes-commission-to-study-female-deacons-appointing-genderbalanced-membership-Z2IU05hOHsWxs0X2mEVE3I/pagina.html

snowball · « **Reply #2 on:** August 03, 2016, 08:23:06 AM »

The Commission will study Tradition and theology for this change, of course,
theology may be shaped into an argument for almost anything, when it is
bad theology.

I am 99.9% certain the Commission will recommend approval of ordained
Deaconesses.

The makeup of the group consists of an equal number of men and women,
six each, presided over by a Monsignor, who will likely go with the majority
view (how democratic), and then Jorge Bergoglio will instruct the Canon lawyers
to rewrite 1,989 years of Church Tradition (starting at Our Lord's ministry).

As the Modernist, Freemason Occupied Vatican morphs into full-blown Universalism,
a great Schism is approaching.
We may very well see a situation in our lifetimes where contending pontiffs have different seats,
with millions of traditional Catholics formally recognizing a
Pope other than the Novus Ordo pontiff (if it will even be a man,
that shoe will eventually drop also).

I, for one, am glad that our chances of having a real Pope again are increasing.
Whether that Pope sits in the Vatican or not is of lesser consequence
than his validity.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2016, 09:15:51 PM »

The very fact that Francis the Red has called a commission to study this tells you just how "Catholic" he is.

Cantarella · « **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2016, 10:35:51 PM »

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So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?

Francis' pontificate has made me considering Sedeprivationism as plausible.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2016, 02:13:12 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

http://www.france24.com/en/20160802-vatican-pope-francis-commission-women-roles-church-deacons

So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?

If not, will they be slowly boiled to death like frogs as they accept one of these things after another as compatible with Catholic faith?

Just like I said about the commission to investigate the "sanctity" of adulterer and sodomite "marriages" , I say, bring it on. The quicker they clearly reveal their real purpose, the quicker this battle will come to a head and the quicker that the people of good will, will see it.

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Quote from: Arvinger
I'm really inclined to believe that God allows this pontificate (anti-pontificate?) to be so blatantly scandalous to give people a chance (perhaps one of last chances before the chastisements foretold in Fatima and Akita) to see what is going on. Benedict XVI's "conservative" appearence managed to deceive multitudes into thinking that he holds the Catholic faith, with Francis even the Novus Ordites start to realize that this is a raving modernist.

100% Ditto to that.

From my thread "Bergolio, the Best Conciliar Pope for Catholics" http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bergolio-the-Best-Conciliar-Pope-for-Catholics

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God is being unbelievable merciful to man in allowing Bergolio to be the pope. JPII & B16 were good actors, but Bergolio is in the raw, he is not even Catholic in his every deed. Anyone that follows him (the SSPX?) is totally blind or does not care about the Faith. What better gift could real Catholics receive from God, than a clear sign? Anyone that does not see now does not want to see.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2016, 02:17:14 AM »

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So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?

Francis' pontificate has made me considering Sedeprivationism as plausible.

I still do not feel the need to explain what it is or how it is (the variant of sede), I just simply do not believe the conciliar popes are valid popes, and since I came back to the Church, deep inside, I never believed they were valid popes.

What the popes do and say have no effect on the religious life of my family. All I ask from God here on earth is a valid priest to provide my family the mass and the sacraments. The rest I get from God direct and there I ask for everything.

Degrelle · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2016, 09:50:48 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican

Just like I said about the commission to investigate the "sanctity" of adulterer and sodomite "marriages" , I say, bring it on. The quicker they clearly reveal their real purpose, the quicker this battle will come to a head and the quicker that the people of good will, will see it.

I tend to agree with this.

Mr. B/Francis is simply making official things that have been around in the Novus Ordo for decades, but by doing so he is making it very clear what that false religion is all about and is knocking down the façade that the Novus Ordo = the Catholic Church. The quicker he does so the better, so that more people can see the truth and get out before they are cooked like the proverbial frog.

I do hope that this latest outrage pushes more people "over the edge", but on the other hand, I can't help but think that if Francis declaring "there is no Catholic God", and his horrific Amoris Laetitia isn't enough, then I'm not sure that female deacons would be enough either. I've already watched the goal-posts shift many times and things that years ago R&R friends of mine said would be the "Straw that broke the camel's back" for them have come and gone yet they are still R&R. :cry: