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Francis Approves Married Priests in Amazonia via the Back Door
« on: February 12, 2020, 06:54:19 PM »

As sly as a snake this Third World Prelate:

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Today, the so-called Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation for the Synod on the Amazon, Querida Amazonia, was published. It’s a 16,000 word docuмent, a mere pamphlet compared to other Bergoglian texts. Even so, it will take some time for me to digest.

Right out of the gate (Article 2), however, one finds an extremely important sentence that many, I suspect, will miss:

“I will not go into all of the issues treated at length in the final docuмent. Nor do I claim to replace that text or to duplicate it.”

Here, Jorge is referring to the Final Docuмent of the Amazon Synod that was issued in November. Pay close attention: Nor do I claim to replace it… This means that “Francis,” as he is wont to be known, is bestowing his approval upon the contents of that text in all of its glory.

Readers may recall the motu proprio, Episcopalis Communio, that he issued in September 2018, whereby he ordered changes to the Synod of Bishops. It included the following statement concerning a Synod’s final docuмent:

Having received the approval of the Members, the final Docuмent of the Assembly is offered to the Roman Pontiff, who decides to publish it. If expressly approved by the Roman Pontiff, the final docuмent participates in the ordinary Magisterium of the Successor of Peter.

If the Roman Pontiff granted the deliberative power to the Assembly of the Synod, in accordance with can. 343 of the Code of Canon Law, the Final Docuмent participates in the ordinary Magisterium of the Successor of Peter once ratified and promulgated by him.

While Francis appears to have refrained from “expressly approving” the Amazon Synod Final Docuмent, Querida Amazonia amounts to an underhanded way of effectively doing just that; he simply reworded the action to say, I officially present it.

His intention in this matter becomes clearer in the next article:

At the same time, I would like to officially present the Final Docuмent, which sets forth the conclusions of the Synod, which profited from the participation of many people who know better than myself or the Roman Curia the problems and issues of the Amazon region, since they live there, they experience its suffering and they love it passionately. I have preferred not to cite the Final Docuмent in this Exhortation, because I would encourage everyone to read it in full. [Emphasis added]

“can. 343 of the Code of Canon Law.” It reads:

It is for the synod of bishops to discuss the questions for consideration and express its wishes but not to resolve them or issue decrees about them unless in certain cases the Roman Pontiff has endowed it with deliberative power, in which case he ratifies the decisions of the synod.


Alas, the sycophants for the Conciliar Church come out immediately saying no married priests. The visible so called Church will soon be a corpse and they will be joined to it.



Re: Francis Approves Married Priests in Amazonia via the Back Door
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 01:11:42 PM »
 

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Querida Amazonia: “One possible step” to women priests

Louie February 13, 2020 No Comment



Yesterday, I called attention to the fact that “Francis,” via Querida Amazonia, approved of the ordination of married men for the conciliar church just as expected.

What was not necessarily expected, much less even noticed by the vast majority of commentators – including many “traditional” Catholic outlets – is the way in which he did so; namely, by effectively ratifying the Synod’s Final Docuмent in its fullness. That text includes a call, among other things, for the following:
…to ordain as priests suitable and respected men of the community with a legitimately constituted and stable family, who have had a fruitful permanent diaconate and receive an adequate formation for the priesthood…[Emphasis added]

This means that Francis has given the green light to the bishops of Amazonia to begin forming and treating “permanent deacons” in exactly the same way that the conciliar church presently treats “transitional deacons.”
As such, one can be certain that those bishops will begin routinely “ordaining as priests” married men in the not too distant future. From there, one can be certain that this practice will spread, “in order to sustain the life of the Christian community,” throughout the conciliar church.

Yes, but we can thank the good Lord, the terminally naïve will declare, that he didn’t set in motion the ordination of females to the diaconate, much less to the priesthood!

Oh, really? Remember who we’re dealing with here.
“For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
The diabolical operation that has been unfolding over the last half-a-dozen or so decades is being led by Satan, a fallen angel whose cunning and intelligence far exceeds our own, and he’s forever playing the long game. So too are his earthly accomplices.

At this, I call your attention to a post that was published in this space back in October:
Vatican Confirms: Women already in diaconate formation
To briefly recap its contents:

Vatican News reported that, with the encouragement of Francis, individuals are being accepted into a formation program that has been underway in Amazonia since November 2017, focused on “ministries that Deacons perform in order to move toward being ordained as Deacons.”
For the report, Vatican News spoke with Bishop Wilmar Santin, who is responsible for “an area that covers 175 thousand square km” in the Amazon. According to Santin, the program’s first class includes “20 men and 4 women,” but it has since grown to include a total of forty-eight persons; the total number of women among them not being specified.

NB: Under discussion is a formation process for future deacons that includes at least four women and very likely more!

The day before Vatican News reported on the Amazonian diaconate formation program, Edward Pentin of National Catholic Register published a report stating:
One of the key figures behind the Pan-Amazon Synod’s working docuмent [Bishop Erwin Kräutler, who worked for years in the same area as Bishop Santin] admitted Wednesday that he supports the ordination of women as priests and that he sees this month’s meeting as one possible step towards achieving that goal.

One possible step…

OK, so let’s follow the steps that have since come into focus to see where they might possibly lead:

– One of the authors of the Instrumentum Laboris for the Amazonian Synod is a bishop who plainly favors the ordination of females to the priesthood. As observed by writer Thomas Ascik at Crisis Magazine:
In the only passage where the word “ordination” appears, the Instrumentum goes on to advocate the “possibility” of the “priestly ordination” of married “older people” (in the Spanish version, personas; in the French, personnes; the word “men” is not used in any language) “for the most remote areas.”

– The Synod’s Final Docuмent very specifically calls for conferring priestly ordination upon those “who have had a fruitful permanent diaconate.”

– With the publication of Querida Amazonia, Francis has unequivocally put his stamp of approval upon the above-cited Final Docuмent, making it plain to the bishops of that region – men like Erwin Kräutler and Wilmar Santin – that they now have the green light to move forward with the plans and proposals that are presently in place.

– In the meantime, a diaconate formation program has already been underway in the Amazon since 2017, which, according to the official news agency of the Unholy See, includes at least four women.

For those with eyes to see and the will to use them, the long game plan is on the table.


Re: Francis Approves Married Priests in Amazonia via the Back Door
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2020, 02:21:17 AM »
The docuмent does not permit married priests. 
The 2019 Synod of Bishops on the Amazon recommended to Pope Francis that diocesan bishops in the Amazon region should be permitted to ordain as priests married and mature permanent deacons to serve in communities without a priest. The idea gained traction, and became the source of debate, in many corners of the Church.
The pope did not accept that recommendation, and, Vatican officials said Wednesday, has no plans to accept it.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-querida-amazonia-80777



Re: Francis Approves Married Priests in Amazonia via the Back Door
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 05:12:10 AM »
There are married priests already in many novus ordo dioceses.  They were Anglican married with wife,children, grandchildren then they converted to novus ordo.   

Re: Francis Approves Married Priests in Amazonia via the Back Door
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 06:51:01 AM »
The docuмent does not permit married priests.
The 2019 Synod of Bishops on the Amazon recommended to Pope Francis that diocesan bishops in the Amazon region should be permitted to ordain as priests married and mature permanent deacons to serve in communities without a priest. The idea gained traction, and became the source of debate, in many corners of the Church.
The pope did not accept that recommendation, and, Vatican officials said Wednesday, has no plans to accept it.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-querida-amazonia-80777
Says "the Vatican officials"......

Also from your source:
The pope encourages Catholics to read the recommendations of the 2019 Synod of Bishops.
At the conclusion of the 2019 Synod of Bishops, participants approved a docuмent making recommendations to the pope about the Church’s ministry in the Amazon, including the possibility of ordaining married men as priests.
In Querida Amazonia, Pope Francis recommended that Catholics read that docuмent. He did not endorse all its proposals, or any of them specifically, nor did he approve them with the magisterial authority of his office. He commended them for reading, study, and discussion.

Here is what Francis actually writes in the first 3 paragraphs of Querida Amazonia:

1. The beloved Amazon region stands before the world in all its splendour, its drama and its mystery. God granted us the grace of focusing on that region during the Synod held in Rome from 6-27 October last, which concluded by issuing its Final Docuмent, The Amazon: New Paths for the Church and for an Integral Ecology.

2. During the Synod, I listened to the presentations and read with interest the reports of the discussion groups. In this Exhortation, I wish to offer my own response to this process of dialogue and discernment. I will not go into all of the issues treated at length in the final docuмent. Nor do I claim to replace that text or to duplicate it. I wish merely to propose a brief framework for reflection that can apply concretely to the life of the Amazon region a synthesis of some of the larger concerns that I have expressed in earlier docuмents, and that can help guide us to a harmonious, creative and fruitful reception of the entire synodal process.

3. At the same time, I would like to officially present the Final Docuмent, which sets forth the conclusions of the Synod, which profited from the participation of many people who know better than myself or the Roman Curia the problems and issues of the Amazon region, since they live there, they experience its suffering and they love it passionately. I have preferred not to cite the Final Docuмent in this Exhortation, because I would encourage everyone to read it in full.

You see, Francis has not said anything in the Final Docuмent is out of the question.  In fact, he "officially presents" the Final Docuмent here.  He is fully endorsing it by encouraging everyone to read it in full rather than citing it in his Apostolic Exhortation.

Anyone who thinks married priests (or anything else in that Final Docuмent) is off the table for good is a fool.