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Offline poche

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2018, 05:25:09 AM »
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 10, 2018, 06:14:28 AM
Vow of obedience doesn't include selling Church property to a satanist.    
They also made a vow of poverty which means that while technically they may own the property their right to dispose of the property is dependent on the interpretation of their superiors (aka the bishop)
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2018, 08:14:53 AM »
Quote from: poche on June 11, 2018, 05:25:09 AM
They also made a vow of poverty which means that while technically they may own the property their right to dispose of the property is dependent on the interpretation of their superiors (aka the bishop)
Poche,

You lack discernment.

The Nuns had a duty to protect the property from desecration as much as they could.

The court injustice was so dramatic, that one of the Nuns died from the stress of it all.

You just can't seem to discern that the Novus ordo SCHISM, that has infiltrated our Catholic Church is selling off and desecrating Her assets.



It's everywhere... in your face, but you don't want to see it.
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Offline JPaul

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2018, 04:35:28 PM »
Quote from: poche on June 10, 2018, 10:31:11 PM
Yes, that is correct. The vow of obedience is primarily to God. But it is also to those who hold the place as His representatives on earth. The mother superior says, "It is your turn to do the dishes." then it is her turn to do the dishes. The mother superior could be an evil person but in her capacity as mother superior she holds the place as God's representative and the sisters have taken a vow that they will obey her. If the mother superior were to say, "Don't go to mass on Sunday" or "I want you to sell drugs on the street corner." I could see disobedience. Sometimes we have to resist the evil that is among us. But in a property sale I just think that the sisters wrong.      
They do not represent Him when they act contrary to His will.  They are not being told to do the dishes, they are being told to put your Christian moral conscience aside and let us do this blasphemous thing in Gods name.  This is precisely the same as telling them to sell drugs on the street or to prostitute themselves as an act of obedience.  You are kicking against the goad here Poche. The man who is defined as the defender of the Faith is acting  as its corrupter instead, and he is forcing these nuns to submit to his moral delinquencies under the rule of obedience. It is yet another disgusting abuse of power.
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Offline poche

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2018, 02:40:28 AM »
When the sisters entered religious life they took three vows, the vow of poverty, chastity and obedience.
A vow is a solemn promise that one makes to God. These are solemn promises that are not made lightly that where you can hold your hands behind your back and cross your fingers. These are not the false promises of the Pharisees where if you swore by the Temple or the altar you were not obligated. These are promises that need to be fulfilled. The most famous of the promises is chastity, and while it is important it is not the first. The first is poverty. By the vow of poverty the religious gives up all right to the disposal of whatever goods they happen to possess.
For example, if you were to give $20 to a priest of the Society of St Pius X and say, "Go have a good time with this Father." He could go to the mass or to a restaurant etc... (The SSPX don't take a vow of poverty) On the other hand if you give this same $20 ti a religious sister and say, "Go have a good time with this sister." She would have to bring that money back to the convent and it would be the mother superior who decides how the $20 would be spent. The property really doesn't belong to them it in the sense that they really own it. It is only given in trust, but it is their superiors who can decide ultimately what actually happens to it.
      
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Offline JPaul

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2018, 09:45:14 AM »
Quote from: poche on June 12, 2018, 02:40:28 AM
When the sisters entered religious life they took three vows, the vow of poverty, chastity and obedience.
A vow is a solemn promise that one makes to God. These are solemn promises that are not made lightly that where you can hold your hands behind your back and cross your fingers. These are not the false promises of the Pharisees where if you swore by the Temple or the altar you were not obligated. These are promises that need to be fulfilled. The most famous of the promises is chastity, and while it is important it is not the first. The first is poverty. By the vow of poverty the religious gives up all right to the disposal of whatever goods they happen to possess.
For example, if you were to give $20 to a priest of the Society of St Pius X and say, "Go have a good time with this Father." He could go to the mass or to a restaurant etc... (The SSPX don't take a vow of poverty) On the other hand if you give this same $20 ti a religious sister and say, "Go have a good time with this sister." She would have to bring that money back to the convent and it would be the mother superior who decides how the $20 would be spent. The property really doesn't belong to them it in the sense that they really own it. It is only given in trust, but it is their superiors who can decide ultimately what actually happens to it.
      
And if their superiors are going to use it to do something blasphemous and something that harms the Church?   Remember it is not the superior's money it is the Church's and its purpose is to be used for the good of souls.
You do not have a leg to stand on Poche.
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