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Offline Marlelar

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« on: February 22, 2015, 11:40:32 PM »
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  • He certainly does not hide his opinions!

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    « Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 12:07:57 AM »
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  • Anti-pope..... :roll-laugh2:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


    Offline Ladislaus

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    « Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 06:33:58 AM »
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  • Quote relevant sections that make you say this.

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    However, the Pope noted that there are priests and bishops who speak of a "reform of the reform." Some of them are "saints" and speak "in good faith." But this "is mistaken", the Holy Father said. He then referred to the case of some bishops who accepted "traditionalist" seminarians who were kicked out of other dioceses, without finding out information on them, because "they presented themselves very well, very devout." They were then ordained, but these were later revealed to have "psychological and moral problems."


    This clearly has to do with the Urrutigoity problem, and this is spot on.

    Offline Jehanne

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    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 08:51:36 AM »
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    Just curious, why didn't these seminarians go over to the SSPX?  Or, even, the FSSP?

    Offline Ladislaus

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    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 09:30:12 AM »
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    Just curious, why didn't these seminarians go over to the SSPX?  Or, even, the FSSP?


    Which seminarians?

    In the case of Urrutigoity, he got kicked out of one SSPX seminary, then went to another SSPX seminary, where he was ordained.  Then he left / got kicked out for reasons not related to the moral / psychological problems.  Then he went to FSSP enclave (under banner of their own Society) in Scanton, PA.  Then he and his followers were busted for the moral / psychological problems.  Despite that, Urrutigoity recently resurface in a Novus Ordo diocese in South America.  So they tried several places.

    I've also know of various Institute of Christ the King seminarians who were booted from there due to suspicions of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and then resurfaced in the SSPX, claiming that they were thrown out for being "traditional" and that the other accusations were trumped up to hide their real motives.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 24, 2015, 11:28:57 PM »
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  • I read the link you provided and I didn't see anything anti traditionalist. What I did see was a dislike for people who use the tradition of the Catholic Church as a cover for their own sins and vices.  

    Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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    « Reply #6 on: February 27, 2015, 09:20:17 AM »
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    However, the Pope noted that there are priests and bishops who speak of a "reform of the reform." Some of them are "saints" and speak "in good faith." But this "is mistaken", the Holy Father said. He then referred to the case of some bishops who accepted "traditionalist" seminarians who were kicked out of other dioceses, without finding out information on them, because "they presented themselves very well, very devout." They were then ordained, but these were later revealed to have "psychological and moral problems."


    This clearly has to do with the Urrutigoity problem, and this is spot on.


    Correct. The Spanish blogs made it clear he was referring to Ciudad del Este's Urrutigoity group.
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